90 hp johnson outboard
I'm considering a boat with a 90hp Johnson outboard. How long has
this company been out of business? A lot of used boats seem to have
Johnson/Evinrude motors. Are parts readily available? |
Charlie
Oct 6
2005
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Shortwave
Oct 7
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| E-TEC is the wave of the future. maybe. maybe not.
about 70 percent of the outboards sold are four strokes.
about 30 percent are two strokes, including di motors.
Each has its advantages. each its deficits.
time will tell. editor
http://www.marineenginedigest.com |
ed
Oct 7
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| E-TEC is the wave of the future. |
Shortwave
Oct 7
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| He is considering a boat with a 90 Johnson. Probably costs less than a new
E-tec. |
Bill
Oct 7
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| There were rumors about these engines two years ago, but BRP always
discounted them as being possible, but not in the engineering/
production cycle. Good to know the rumors were right. |
Shortwave
Oct 6
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| Parts are more readily available for those motors than probably any other
motor. *However*, many of the dealers got burned by OMC and quit stocking the
parts. They're around in bulk, but not as many dealers carry them as used
to. |
NOYB
Oct 6
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| Nonsense. I have a Suzuki 250 four-stroke with 275 hours on it, and my
brother has a Suzuki 140 four-stroke that is a little over 3 years old, and
neither has had a single problem, nor been to the shop a single time for a
non-maintenance repair. Ask Gene about his Suzuki four-strokes...since he's owned his a little
longer than I. Unless your neighbors were failing to change their anodes as
required, there is no reason that those motors should have a problem. |
NOYB
Oct 6
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| BRP stands for Bombardier Recreational Products and it offers Evinrude
and Johnson outboard motors, personal watercraft, snowmobiles, ATVs and
sport boats. It is NOT an affiliate of Learjet, that=B4s a different
Bombardier from which BRP was spun off (sold to a group of investors). Parts are readily available for current generation Johnson outboards,
older engines can be a parts problem, especially clutch dogs and
gearsets. It depends on the age of the engine. Note Mercury Marine
markets some repair parts for older Evinrude and Johnson. So does
Sierra. The currrent Johnson 90 is a conventional two-stroke with a carburetor.
It smokes. It=B4s noisy. Its fuel economy is not so great compared to
state of the art outboards.
http://www.johnson.com/docs/200002/0_US.htm The Evinrude 90 ETEC is direct injected, requires no break-in, no
initial maintenance for its first 100 hours and it winterizes at the
touch of a button. It also gets about 30 percent better fuel economy.
Its warranty term runs one year longer.
http://www.evinrude.com/en-CA/Engines/2005/E-Tec/Saltwater.90/Specification=
s/90.IN-LINE.3/ As for Suzuki four strokes, in my experience they survive as well as
any outboard in saltwater. the real question is whether you want a DI
or four-stroke. editor
http://www.marineenginedigest.com |
ed
Oct 6
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| That was then, this is now. E-TEC is the wave of the future. |
Shortwave
Oct 6
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| >any outboard in saltwater. the real question is whether you want a DI
>or four-stroke. There is no debate - E-TEC. |
Shortwave
Oct 6
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| BRP stands for Bombardier Recreational Products and it offers Evinrude
and Johnson outboard motors, personal watercraft, snowmobiles, ATVs and
sport boats. It is NOT an affiliate of Learjet, thatīs a different
Bombardier from which BRP was spun off (sold to a group of investors). Parts are readily available for current generation Johnson outboards,
older engines can be a parts problem, especially clutch dogs and
gearsets. It depends on the age of the engine. Note Mercury Marine
markets some repair parts for older Evinrude and Johnson. So does
Sierra. The currrent Johnson 90 is a conventional two-stroke with a carburetor.
It smokes. Itīs noisy. Its fuel economy is not so great compared to
state of the art outboards.
http://www.johnson.com/docs/200002/0_US.htm The Evinrude 90 ETEC is direct injected, requires no break-in, no
initial maintenance for its first 100 hours and it winterizes at the
touch of a button. It also gets about 30 percent better fuel economy.
Its warranty term runs one year longer.
http://www.evinrude.com/en-CA/Engines/2005/E-Tec/Saltwater.90/Specifications/90.IN-LINE.3/ When it's time to repower my 17' Whaler, I'll be looking at the E-tecs to
replace the current Johnson 90hp. It's just that those Johnson 90's are so
damn reliable...and when and if they break, they're easy and cheap to fix.
As for Suzuki four strokes, in my experience they survive as well as
any outboard in saltwater. the real question is whether you want a DI
or four-stroke. editor
http://www.marineenginedigest.com |
NOYB
Oct 6
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| Yup. But a variation on the E-tec: Evinrude Vindicator. http://www.motorboating.com/motorboat/features/article/0,12696,1100359,00.html Scroll down to "Outboards of the Future" |
NOYB
Oct 6
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| Maybe the bigger ones are better but these 40 and 70 hps all succumed
to corrosion. One had a water jacket to cylinder failure, one had an
oil pan fail and the other can't keep hot water sensors. The block
finally rotted oput so bad they wouldn't stay in.
These were stored out of the water and got flushed. (although the
Estero River only runs about 1-4 PPT salt most of the year)
The anodes were OK. If you know "Chappy" at Bonita Boat Center ask him
about Griffin or Hampton's motors. I am not sure who maintained at the
other guy's motor.
Three for three convinced me. Dan Griffin is somewhere around #150 in
the bankruptsy filing since he had a commitment for a total engine
replacenent when OMC went belly up. He expects that if he keeps his
case active Bombardier may send him $50 or something.
At the same time my Mercs were doing fine and I don't do shit to them
(~300 hours a year) |
gfretwell
Oct 6
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| Chappy is at Marina Mike's now. He helped me when I stripped the threads |
NOYB
Oct 6
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| Excellent choice! |
trainfan1
Oct 5
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| I would avoid the Suzuki/OMCs 4 strokes like the plague. There were 3
new ones in my neighborhood 4 years ago and they are all dead now.
Salt water kills them. |
gfretwell
Oct 6
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| They have been around for a long time, have been bought and sold
several times and are now owned by Bombardier Corporation which is a
holding company for Leer Jet, Sea-Doo, Ski-Doo and a few others. If you are in the market for a 90 horse outboard, don't get the
Johnson, buy the 90 Evinrude E-TEC - more efficiency, quieter, more
torque and did I mention efficient? |
Shortwave
Oct 6
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