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This gloomy weather...

.... is getting depressing. Mrs. E's in Florida attending a baby shower. Sam Adams is at the vet recovering from loosing his manhood.

And I am getting sucked into political discussions again due to boredom.

Think I'll go to the boat for the rest of the day and spend the night. Always something to do there.

Eisboch

Eisboch
Oct 9
2005
He's Kevin. Dan
Oct 10
Dan, Harry wants to pretend this is not Skipper. A few weeks ago he was bemoaning the fact that Skipper was no longer in rec.boats. Now that he is here, Harry has decided he really did not want Skipper to come back from the dead.

This is absolutely the same Skipper who for years was a reg. in rec.boats

"Dan Krueger" <dankrueger@mindspringxxx.com> wrote in message

Starbuck's
Oct 10
What practice? Nine wild turkeys landed in my front yard for a half hour while on their way to...somewhere. I hadn't seen them before, and I doubt I'll see them again. As I stated, I've never seen wild turkeys before on my property, or in our adjacent woods, and I stalk the woods regularly in search of critters to photograph.

It matters not to me what Smithers says, because whatever he says, he's a flaming ass and one of the reasons why this newsgroup is in the sorry shape it is in.

Are you referring to my habit of putting food out for passing critters?

I live within the boundaries of a tiny rural town, Doug, and the raising of critters and crops is a common practice. Within two miles of my front door are at least a dozen working farms where horses, cattle, goats, chickens, turkeys, llamas ahd who knows what else are raised for profit and for hobbies. The biggest event hereabouts is the annual agricultural exhibit and show. My house is bordered by heavy, large wooded areas on three sides, and in those woods I have seen foxes, raccons, possum, four varieties of deer, bats, all manner of birds, and a dozen other critters. Some of these varieties have been walking across my little farmette for hundreds of years. I see no harm in putting out corn for the deer and whoever else needs a meal, and my wife likes to feed the finches, cardinals and doves. The four-legged critters don't congregate in my yard, but they do walk through it on their way to wherever they are going.

We enjoy the sightings and in fact the presence of the animals is one of the reasons why we bought this property. Country living, as it were.

I highly recommend a wonderful book written some years ago by the conservative columnist James J. Kilpatrick. The book is The Foxes' Union and Other Stretchers, Tall Tales and Discursive Reminiscences of Happy Years in Scrabble, Virginia

It is a wonderful book about country living by a conservative who really can write.

Harry
Oct 10
What a bizarre "response," and obviously not from the real Skipper. Harry
Oct 10
Harry, You read and respond to every one of my posts.

"Harry Krause" <harry.krause@gmail.com> wrote in message

Starbuck's
Oct 10
Harry, Your NPD is showing. You would rather ignore the experts advice for your own personal pleasure. To heck with the health and welfare of the wildlife.

"Harry Krause" <harry.krause@gmail.com> wrote in message

Starbuck's
Oct 10
Harry, This kind of "social welfare" is what has hurt so many of the poor in America. It makes you feel good, but is very detrimental to those receiving the "assistance".

"Starbuck's Words of Wisdom" <coffeegrinder@columbia.com> wrote in message

Starbuck's
Oct 10
Let's be accurate here, Krause. *YOU* are the reason this NG is in the toilet.

-- Skipper

Skipper
Oct 10
The environment the critters like is already here; I didn't import any of these animals. There are hundreds of acres of corn in season within a short walk of my yard. As I stated, they simply walk across my property on their rounds, as I am sure they did before we built our house. We provide the occasional snack. Harry
Oct 10
You aren't "Skipper." Harry
Oct 10
Harry, It looks like you will continue your detrimental practice, no matter what the experts say. Why does that not surprise me.

"Harry Krause" <harry.krause@gmail.com> wrote in message

Starbuck's
Oct 10
And that's about as accurate as you ever are.

-- Skipper

Skipper
Oct 10
In the past, you've made it sound like the snacks were a regular thing. Doug
Oct 10
LOL! See. It can only be the real Skipper.

Eisboch

Eisboch
Oct 10
My wife keeps her bird feeders full. If I could get the fox family to stop by nightly, I might buy a bag of Purina Fox Chow. There are few prettier animals in the woods. Harry
Oct 10
Really? Because I on occasion toss some leftovers out on the edge of my woods for passing critters?

That's ignoring science?

Hardly.

Should I try to convince my neighbors to stop growing corn, because critters sometimes feed on the acreage?

Harry
Oct 10
Richard, If this is not Skipper, he has mastered his style.

"Eisboch" <nothere@nowhere.com> wrote in message

Starbuck's
Oct 10
Harry, Two points:

1. In the past you said you kept leftovers at the edge of the field, so you and your wife can view the wildlife. 2. There is a world of difference between feeding wildlife people food that is unhealthy for the animal and encourages the animal to lose their fear of humans, and wildlife foraging for grains scattered on a field.

The fact that you prefer to ignore the experts and you only care about your own personal welfare, follows the symptoms of someone who suffers from NPD.

"Harry Krause" <harry.krause@gmail.com> wrote in message

Starbuck's
Oct 10
This pseudo Skipper is certainly trying to live up to one of the 'original' Skipper's fitting nicknames'Snippy'. Don
Oct 10
I'm ready to murder all three of our local weather "experts", just for grins. Or, at least egg their cars. Doug
Oct 10
It's Mr. Shortwave's fault. He's doing something to the clouds with some sort of weird antennae. Doug
Oct 10
They're smarter than people give them credit for. If that's not true, then I need this contradiction explained:

- Most articles I've read about turkey hunting say that they're extremely wary birds and very hard to stalk & get close to for a good shot.

- Sitting on my GF's porch, we'll watch a group of them come within 50 feet of the house, 3-4 times a week. We don't stop talking, they look at us, we stand up, grab the binoculars, make all sorts of normal noises & movements, and the birds do not leave.

If statement #1 is true, then turkeys must know exactly what a shotgun looks like, and what it means. I may buy an inexpensive one, just to hold it up in the air and see what their reaction is.

Doug
Oct 10
Possible, actually, but for more interesting reasons than the obvious: Here (upstate NY), the DEC finds a much higher rate of infectious diseases among ducks which congregate in areas where people purposely provide or incidentally leave food scraps. The reason is simple: More ducks congregate in tighter groups for longer periods of time as they chase pieces of hot dog buns & ice cream cones, so there's more opportunity for contagious disease to spread. The DEC believes it's probably true with other animals which humans like to feed.

"Starbuck's Words of Wisdom" <coffeegrinder@columbia.com> wrote in message

Doug
Oct 10
Harry, Please note, it is not healthy to feed wildlife.

"Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message

Starbuck's
Oct 10
~~ ssssshhhhhhhhh - be bery bery qwuiet ~~ Shortwave
Oct 10
The problem is that they've become used to humanity. We see it all the time around here. I have two flocks in the 100 Acre Woods, one is native, one is introduced and the native is smaller and much more wary - the introduced birds are really stupid. Shortwave
Oct 10
In the interest of political correctness, a group of turkeys is known as a "raft". A mature male turkey is called a "stag". A mature female is a "hen", regardless of how good looking she may be.

http://www.greenapple.com/~jorp/amzanim/names-usfeather.htm

(can't believe I am looking this stuff up)

Eisboch

Eisboch
Oct 10
Well, I don't think the half hour visit in the front yard of nine wild turkeys presents any health concern, Doug.

I see Smithers still has his nose up my butt. Is anyone keeping track of how many posts a day of his mention me or are directed towards me? You'd think he'd be frustrated by the lack of response.

Harry
Oct 10
That and those huge deliveries of dry ice to his garage. Harry
Oct 10
I'll need data on that "think" of yours, Harry. You're defending a practice Doug
Oct 10
And what makes you so special? Go to certain sections of Floriduh, New Jersey, or New York and you'll find thousands of anti-Americans just like you. You ain't nothin special, Krause.

-- Skipper

Skipper
Oct 10
not so for us (Mid-Atlantic) .. we've had a serious lack of rain (and gloom) for a couple of months now. It's been great for boating (lots of time on the water this year !) but not so nice for the yard. "Fortunately" though we got some of the remnants of Tropical Storm Tammy this weekend and although it has hit harder in some spots than others, it only left us with a couple of inches of rain and a much needed ground soaking. Even the two ponds in the yard got topped off nicely.

It wasn't a weekend for boating but I'll definitely take the MUCH needed rainstorms.

Glenn
Oct 9
Ah.... clearly, you have taken an option unavailable to most of the OT posters! Gene
Oct 9
We had a bit of excitement this morning. My wife looked out the front bedroom window and saw nine wild turkeys on the front lawn, scrounging for who knows what.

Big birds, too, and very pretty. I've never seen wild turkeys on our property, not until this morning. In fact, I've not seen them in the field or in the woods surrounding us.

If you're that bored, you should head on down here. We've got leaves falling now, and you could rake them up!

Harry
Oct 9
We've had heavy rain falling for two days now. Forecast calls for two more days of same. Nice way to spend the last half decent holiday (long weekend re Thanksgiving). We expect this weather on Remembrance day Nov 11, but not now. Don
Oct 9
I went fishing - always does me good. Shortwave
Oct 9
Be careful around those turkeys. Some of the wild ones can be pretty nasty.

Thanks for the offer, but I think I'll leave your leaves for you to relieve.

Eisboch

Eisboch
Oct 9
Harry, The problem is you have been leaving scraps outside, hurting the wildlife, leading to their early death.

"Harry Krause" <harry.krause@gmail.com> wrote in message

Starbuck's
Oct 9
".....For the Truth the Turkey is in Comparison a much more respectable Bird, and withal a true original Native of America... He is besides, though a little vain & silly, a Bird of Courage, and would not hesitate to attack a Grenadier of the British Guards who should presume to invade his Farm Yard with a red Coat on." Benjamin Franklin Gene
Oct 9
Ditto the clouds, here, plus some light to heavy rain. No forecast relief before Tuesday and with TD 22 headed this way.... I suspect we'll see plenty more.... Gene
Oct 9
I read somewhere that if old Ben had had his way, the Turkey would be the National Bird of the USA rather than the Eagle.

Eisboch

Eisboch
Oct 9
We have two days of heavy rain Friday and Saturday. 3.5" on Friday, 3.6" yesterday. Man the arks! Harry
Oct 9
Oh, I didn't go out to chase them. It was enough to watch them. I'll be glad to UPS you a bag'o'leaves. Harry
Oct 9
Yeah, and handsome to boot. Glad there are no hunters in my little bit of Maryland. Harry
Oct 9
Very true. Franklin had little use for the eagle. Here's the whole quote:

"For my own part I wish the Bald Eagle had not been chosen the Representative of our Country. He is a Bird of bad moral Character. He does not get his Living honestly. You may have seen him perched on some dead Tree near the River, where, too lazy to fish for himself, he watches the Labour of the Fishing Hawk; and when that diligent Bird has at length taken a Fish, and is bearing it to his Nest for the Support of his Mate and young Ones, the Bald Eagle pursues him and takes it from him. "With all this Injustice, he is never in good Case but like those among Men who live by Sharping & Robbing he is generally poor and often very lousy. Besides he is a rank Coward: The little King Bird not bigger than a Sparrow attacks him boldly and drives him out of the District. He is therefore by no means a proper Emblem for the brave and honest Cincinnati of America who have driven all the King birds from our Country.... "I am on this account not displeased that the Figure is not known as a Bald Eagle, but looks more like a Turkey. For the Truth the Turkey is in Comparison a much more respectable Bird, and withal a true original Native of America... He is besides, though a little vain & silly, a Bird of Courage, and would not hesitate to attack a Grenadier of the British Guards who should presume to invade his Farm Yard with a red Coat on."

Gene
Oct 9
   

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