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Cost-benefit ratio of AA rechargeables?

Just wondering.

My little camera speedlight uses four AA batteries and gives me about 160 or so flashes before they need to be replaced. They're not expensive, but I don't always have a fresh set available, and I don't always remember to stop and buy some before I go out with my camera.

So, I've been thinking about getting four rechargeable NiMH batteries for about $2.50 each, and a charger. Sony and others offer a charger-battery combo for about $30.

I'm wondering how long these NiMH batteries "hold" their charge if they are freshly charged? If it is several weeks between camera use, would I be wanting to recharge them prior to taking the camera out to use?

Any experience?

Thanks.

Harry
Oct 11
2005
Kevin, It was a joke. You are making yourself look silly when you miss the humor. ; )

<atl_man2@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Starbucker
Oct 11
Get them - use them.

They are great.

Shortwave
Oct 11
For some reason, I don't have problems with them like others seem to. I'll admit that they have some minor flaws and can discharge, but when fuly charged, they last a while. I have several battery operated devices with them and they work for me.

Having said that, I always take along several packs of alkaline batteries - just in case. You never know.

Shortwave
Oct 11
For lots of stuff, they're working fine. But, my Raytheon handheld VHF thinks it's smarter than the batteries. It shuts itself off, and if I measure the batteries later, they're still above 1.3 v. Same with my Sony portable CD thing. The GPS unit is OK with them, as are a couple of really bright flashlights. I'm still using less disposable batteries, which is a step in the right direction. Doug
Oct 11
What? Oh, the idiot thought I was saying our gasoline was refined in China?

Kee-rist.

Harry
Oct 11
Harry, Thanks for taking the bait. ; )

"Harry Krause" <harry.krause@gmail.com> wrote in message

Starbucker
Oct 11
Even if Canadian currency was two to one, it's still a ripoff.

-- John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan

PocoLoco
Oct 11
No, they're the duracell alkaline. The AAA I have are duracell ultras, but they're still just alkaline batteries. I mispoke though, they're 39 cents each, not 33. At Home Depot they're 42 cents each. Here's a place you can save some bucks:

http://www.batteriesandbutter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=MX1500AA&Category_Code=bt

-- John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan

PocoLoco
Oct 11
Harry, I am glad I could help.

"Harry Krause" <harry.krause@gmail.com> wrote in message

Starbucker
Oct 11
What I think is funny, is that this is coming from a clown who claims he is wealthy, but complains about the costs of cheap batteries!

He did the same thing about a year ago...came on here, and complained about the price of a $7.00 gas can.

Netsock
Oct 11
THe same reason he took his vacation at the extreme off season. P
Oct 11
My local Costco sells Duracell AA's for 33 cents each. You are getting ripped off. -- John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan

PocoLoco
Oct 11
Hell, I buy the off brand at both Costco and BJ's (Toshiba or Kirkland) for about half that.....and they work just as good at the national brands like Duracell.
Oct 11
I suspect he's talking about Canadian currency. Even my local supermarket sells an 8 pack of Duracells for under six bucks. Doug
Oct 11
It's probably like gasoline...they're all made in the same plant in the PRC...

The answer seems to be to use the lithium disposable AA's.

Harry
Oct 11
Don't you know that lots of wealthy people are very thrifty? Ask hotel/restaurant employees who rely on tips. Don
Oct 11
Apparently netslut can't read. It wasn't the price that concerned me...it was the shelf life. Harry
Oct 11
the 'Ultras' are more expensive than the regular Duracell batteries. Sure you're not buying the 40 pack of Kirkland brand batteries? (I may be quoting you the price for AAA size Ultras). Don
Oct 11
Thanks everybody for this useful thread. I have been wondering since the rechargeables dies on my VHF handheld which route to take for the long run. Since I don't really use the radio very much, I think that buying regular batteries and keeping them on there, with a spare set on board, will be more cost-effective.

richforman

rforman61
Oct 11
Harry, Gasoline is not made in a plant in the PRC.

"Harry Krause" <harry.krause@gmail.com> wrote in message

Starbucker
Oct 11
Bingo. rechargeable are great for hi-use applications - my wife used them for years in her portable CD players (now replaced with an ipod). Just carry a spare set, with a 3rd on the charger. But in occasional-use, high-priority applications, go for good disposables. The economics depend on your frequency of use - if you change them more than every month or two, disposables are far cheaper, and you are already in the habit of swapping them out.

I haven't yet got into the habit of using rechargeable in my LED flashlights - AAA's last about 40 hours there, so it would probably make sense.

And ditto to the comments on Costco brand AA's, as well as Costco battery/charger packages.

Sal's Dad

Sal's
Oct 11
Please learn to read and comprehend what you've read. You're making yourself look silly. atl_man2
Oct 11
Harry, If you did not have me filtered (big grin), you would be able to read my response.

I have found the rechargeable batteries do not hold their charge as long as conventional batteries. I have also found you can not leave the rechargeable batteries in the charger and just change out the batteries as needed. If the rechargeable are kept in the charger they will overcharge and leak. Ruining the battery and the charger. I found you can buy a lot of conventional batteries for the cost of the recharger.

"Harry Krause" <harry.krause@gmail.com> wrote in message

Starbucker
Oct 11
Based on Tom Francis' recommendation, I bought Panasonic's batteries and charger. Fine for some uses, but not for others. Some "smart" devices think the batteries are low even if you put in freshly charged ones, and won't function nearly as long as with alkalines. And, the NiMH batteries lose charge just sitting in a box unused. So, you need to pay attention to those, or they won't be the backups you think they are. Doug
Oct 11
Thanks. I have noticed that alkalines these days bear labels that indicate they have a pretty long shelf life if kept packaged and unused. I suppose I could keep a small supply on hand, but when I grab my camera, I usually do not like to take along the camera bag. I stuff the speedlight in my pocket and use it if and when I need it.

Someone told me that disposable lithium batteries are more suited for speedlight use than disposable alkalines. I probably should buy a set of these and keep notes!

Harry
Oct 11
I intend to keep track of how much they lose in storage, but there are 395 other things on my list of crap to do. Doug
Oct 11
Yep Used them camping & on our boat for a while, but IMHO they don't hold a charge when stored very well, and they cost a lot more.

The main benefit is if you're going to be away from stores to buy fresh batteries, but you are going to have access to 120VAC for the charger... a tough scenario to imagine.

Now we just keep a pack of spare batteries in a drawer on the boat, I make it a point to only buy stuff that takes AA or D size, so we don't have to have some of everything. It should also be a point to recycle the dead batteries.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

DSK
Oct 11
I've gone that route in the past...but unless you use the camera flash often, the NiMH batteries might be a pain. I get my AA's from Costco. I get the package of 16 for around $ 20.00 (Duracell 'Ultra' brand). Every once in a while 'Consumer Reports' does a report on batteries. I'll check my back issues to see what they say. Don
Oct 11
Yeah, I'm concluding I'll just stick with the disposables. Harry
Oct 11
   

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