Here, lap this up, Harry!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9672058/ |
tschnautz
Oct 13 2005
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| Do you have a link for any historical data graphs of other recent |
NOYB
Oct 13
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| HeeHee....kevin caught by his own illogic. And he wonders why he is the "King of the NG idiots"????? |
P
Oct 13
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| Yup, I was going to be a wise ass and leave it at that, but . . . These |
thunder
Oct 13
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| I'm always leery of that "traditional values" thing. I'm never sure what
values they mean. ;-) But you are right, we have lost something. Someone
promised us a free lunch, and we believed them. Those lawsuits are a
prime example. People get injured, and they think they have won the
lottery. We want it all, and we want it now, like spoiled children. |
thunder
Oct 13
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| And I expect he has. |
NOYB
Oct 13
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| That's the "Ka-Thunk" that went off somewhere in my (mostly empty) head as I
listened to this. It's a social change taking place where the concept of
earning something by working hard is being replaced with "It's owed to me".
It's a change whereby if you feel you've been wronged by a merchant - you
sue him, rather that accepting the fact that you learned a lesson and won't
do business with him again. It's a change where paying your dues is not
necessary, you are "entitled" simply because you exist. Its a change
whereby "I" has become paramount rather than "we". That's what I meant by
loosing traditional values. It may be inevitable as a evolutionary step of
our society, but I think it will be the primary reason of our downfall as a
nation if not corrected, rather than the actions of politics and
politicians. Eisboch |
Eisboch
Oct 13
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| I'm not sure I'll agree with that premise. FDR maintained high ratings
throughout his war years, as did Nixon until Watergate. I will agree,
though, that people will only take the bleeding from a prolonged war, if
they perceive the cause to be just. Nixon maintained because he could
blame Johnson for the war, and was perceived to be the "peace" candidate
who promised to end the war with dignity. GWB has no one to blame but himself. The whole weight of this war, the
pluses and the *minuses* will be on him, and rightfully so. When they sat
around looking for a "bureaucratic" reason for this war, perhaps they
should have come up with a better one than WMD. |
thunder
Oct 13
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| Well then, we agree. ;-) You know, this is still a democracy. We may
want to blame our politicians, and I do, but the reality is that they are
more a reflection of us, than we are of them. *We* elected them.
Furthermore, it seems to me, politicians have very little affect on our
daily lives. I'd hate to point to Carter's "Malaise" speech, but he might
have been right. |
thunder
Oct 13
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| TANSTAAFL. There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch Where we've lost is in basic and middle education. We're much more
interested in diversity and socialization than in rote learning of
math and science skills. Just yesterday, in a school system in which I am intimately aware of,
they eliminated a science period for the 7th graders so they could
have a "social" event - namely a make believe 20th reunion so the kids
could start thinking of where they are and where they are going. At eleven years old, it's a little over the top. Personally, I think the only thing they knew was (1) they got out of
science and (2) there was ice cream and cake. As an observation, I have noticed that when I emergency substitute in
high school advanced math classes, they are getting smaller and
smaller because its' an elective and nobody believes it's important. Don't know what that proves - something. |
Shortwave
Oct 13
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| Agreed, |
Shortwave
Oct 13
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| Anally fixated? Is this prevalent among liberals, or is it primarily you and
Harry? Have you discussed this with *any* adult in your life? Here, this may help: http://psychology.about.com/od/glossary_az/g/AnalFixation13.htm I hope everything works out OK for you. --
John H "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
PocoLoco
Oct 13
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| Again, http://psychology.about.com/od/glossary_az/g/AnalFixation13.htm Maybe Harry's wife, who is a Doctor Doctor, I think, can help out. --
John H "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
PocoLoco
Oct 13
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| You know, Herring, I've been ignoring most of your idiotic comments
here because, well, because they are idiotic and because you are so
repetitive. What is it with your obsession with me? Are you really
trying to displace Smithers and see how far up my butt you can stick
your nose? Get a life, Herring. Or at least, for once in your life, a real job. |
Harry
Oct 13
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| Amen. And, what percent of the students are Asian? --
John H "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
PocoLoco
Oct 13
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| Um....we have to import students for diversity sessions. We have one Turkish student and that's it. |
Shortwave
Oct 13
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| Here almost half the students in the Calculus classes are Asian, mostly Korean. --
John H "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
PocoLoco
Oct 13
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| ~~ snippage ~~ |
Shortwave
Oct 13
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| I've seen this, too. I don't know how to fix this other than to expose
the parents to conditions in a third world country and make them feel
that this is their destiny..... it affects the way they see their
children's future. On the other hand, one can instill the first world ethic in
disadvantaged countries by convincing them that we will turn their
world to glass if they don't step into line.... Yeah..... I know..... problem is finding the middle ground. I wish I had a panacea. I don't.
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Gene
Oct 13
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| Good point for once, shit for brains! The only two anywhere NEAR are
Nixon, and Carter!!! |
atl_man2
Oct 13
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| Clinton was at 37% at one point in his Presidency...which matches CBS's
current number. |
NOYB
Oct 13
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| Kevin once again shows why he maintains the title of "King of the NG idiots" |
P
Oct 13
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| Here, why don't you lap THIS up: http://tinyurl.com/9za2n |
atl_man2
Oct 13
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| You sure do visit some strange sites there bassie. I never knew you had a
homoerotic fetish. |
NOYB
Oct 13
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| Looks like it could be a pic of you, just before you got the monkey fist
from your Father in-law. Did Monte get one too? |
Herb
Oct 13
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| What would make you think that I've got a homoerotic fetish, nitwit?
Because I've got enough brains to go to google and enter "hairy ass" to
get a picture to post to tschnautz to "lap it up"? |
atl_man2
Oct 13
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