FUGAWI DO NOT BUY IT!!!
HI,
Below is a copy of the letter I have sent to the Canadian Better
Business Bureau.These people produce Navigation Software, however in their advertising they
do not state that they limit the installations to 2 machines. Had I known of
this limitation I would not have purchased the software. This is what is
known as in my country as
"sharp practice" and can lead to heavy fines and Jail time.It is difficult
to change from machine to machine if required. Even a reformat of the hard
drive and re-installation requires a phone call or internet connection. Not
always possible if one is in a remote area. Also response is slow and
hampered by stupid non relevant questions.
The program is also buggy and not yet of merchantable quality, some features
as in the instructions do not work.
I have no quarrel with a company who wishes to limit the use of the
software, however this should be made plain in the advertising hype. Oliver Fleming A request for a RMA for return of the software is ignored with no
explanation.
Buy it and regret with leisure. Oliver Fleming |
Nov 4
2005
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| Software authors have the right to deliver as number of copies as they
find relevant. This is their Intellectual Property and these are they
who make decision on how many copies to allow to use selling SINGLE
USER license. And copying overpass allowed volumes is ILLEGAL. And in
this case software developers, vendors and distributorsare not bound to
mention in their product announcing promoting and advertising how many
software copies they will supply with ONE USER license. As for software cracks, piracy and illegal copying there is different
methods to protect a software against those who does not want pay for
software programmers and marketers work. Kindest regards http://www.strongbit.com - Bulletproof Software Protection And License
Management ! |
SoftComplete
Nov 4
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| Software authors have the right to deliver as number of copies as they
find relevant. This is their Intellectual Property and these are they
who make decision on how many copies to allow to use selling SINGLE
USER license. And copying overpass allowed volumes is ILLEGAL. And in
this case software developers, vendors and distributorsare not bound to
mention in their product announcing promoting and advertising how many
software copies they will supply with ONE USER license. As for software cracks, piracy and illegal copying there is different
methods to protect a software against those who does not want pay for
software programmers and marketers work. Kindest regards http://www.strongbit.com - Bulletproof Software Protection And License
Management ! |
SoftComplete
Nov 4
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| Hi,
I have been in touch with them and they will NOT permit the software to
be used on more than two computers, That is from their support spokesperson.
Kristina Menalo. As it happened the hard drive on one of the laptops gave up the ghost
and I asked for another code to load onto the PC as it is faster.
There was quite a hullabaloo about that but I was granted the access to
load it onto the home PC.
I like to have software on two laptops when travelling on the boat,
offers a certain amount of redunancy.
I am still mad about the fact that I feel I was conned. I want to use
the software wherever I like and have no restrictions.
That does not mean I am going to go around the bloody marina and
distribute it for free to all and sundry. Oliver Fleming "Howard Peer" <hpeer@hpeer.com> wrote in message |
Nov 4
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| Quite agree as I said in the original post they can do what they bloody like
with the software but make it plain in the advertising that the licence is
limited! Oliver Fleming "SoftComplete" <igor@softcomplete.com> wrote in message |
Nov 4
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| And knowledgeable consumers have the right to boycott products employing
these user unfriendly "schemes", and to tell companies such as yours to
'shove it!' Kindest regards, --
Skipper |
Skipper
Nov 4
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| What difference does this make to you, Snipper? You don;t have a boat
and won't be getting one. |
Harry
Nov 4
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| Interesting, I had a different experience. I found I could only load it on two machines also. But, I called the
company and they said "Hey no problem just call us when you want to add
more copies and we will give you the access code." Right now I have the software on three machines. Two laptops and my
desktop at home. If you have not called it might be worth the effort. I would be curious
to see if they have changed their policy. Howard Oliver Fleming wrote: |
Howard
Nov 4
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| My bluechart software is valid and legal for TWO gps units. The proof is that it
won't work with either one of them until Garmin provides an individual unlock
code for each unit. They allow TWO units. As for your other statement, it isa not a universal truth. Each software has
it's own restrictions and some allow multiple installations under one license. Captain Joe Redcloud
1882 Chestnut Hill Road
Mohnton PA
(610) 856-7118 |
Captain
Nov 4
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| Ask for your money back |
Badger
Nov 4
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| You should consider yourself lucky that they let you install the software on
more than one machine at all. Generally the license you buy software under
limits you to just a single installation. While it's true that many software
installation programs don't check, and thus you can often install software
on multiple machines without problems, the end user license agreement (EULA)
on almost all retail software limits you to an installation on a single
machine. If you purchase software and install it on multiple machines as a
matter of course, you are almost certainly violating some of the EULA's you
agreed to when you purchased the software. So Fugawi's licensing terms are actually more liberal than the norm. For a
non-business user, two computers seems to be a reasonable number: a desktop
computer at home, perhaps, and a laptop computer on the boat. Best regards,
Tom Dacon
Dacon Software Consulting "Oliver Fleming" <ojfleming@internode.on.net> wrote in message |
Tom
Nov 3
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| the issue is that the software will only work on two machines ever.
After that the software is garbage. It would be fair if it could be installed on two machines AT A TIME,
but its not. same is with garmin software btw. matt |
web1000
Nov 3
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| My Garmin bluechart software allows me to install it on multiple computers, and
ties it to up to two different GPS units. Captain Joe Redcloud
1882 Chestnut Hill Road
Mohnton PA
(610) 856-7118 |
Captain
Nov 4
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| Oliver Fleming said:<<< This is what is known as in my country as "sharp
practice" and can lead to heavy fines and Jail time.>>> In Canadan as well as the US using more than one copy ( single purchase) of
most any software is called THEFT.I would be careful about what you send the
CBBB. They may turn it over to your local authorities. |
Perry
Nov 4
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| Baloney! Read the EULA before jumping to wrong conclusions. Captain Joe Redcloud
1882 Chestnut Hill Road
Mohnton PA
(610) 856-7118 |
Captain
Nov 4
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| I used to manage the tech support department for one of the biggest nav
software companies in the world. I can tell you first hand that piracy of
this sort of software is rampant, unashamed and unabashed. You are indeed lucky to be allowed to install it beyond one machine. It's
all you paid to own. Make your same argument with Adobe, Novel, Microsoft or
any number of other companies that have the same protocol and they will
snicker at your logic. It might be wise for you to enjoy your software and stop maligning a great
little product. In all my years in the biz, I never thought I'd defend my
Canadian brother/competitors, but there you have it.
Capt Dan |
Danny
Nov 3
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| You are nuts, and you are incorrect. We are not talking about piracy at all.
Most software today allows for installation on more than one machine with just
one license. The world has adjusted to the fact that many peole have a laptop
and a desktop. Software licenses frequently allow for that. As I CLEARLY suggested, read your EULA to see what is allowed and not allowed. I
dare you! You don't know what you are talking about, and it's easy to see why
you lost your "job" Captain Joe Redcloud
1882 Chestnut Hill Road
Mohnton PA
(610) 856-7118 |
Captain
Nov 4
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| Well. I guess you told me! And I didn't even know that I lost my job or my
mind. Thanks for the update. ;-) |
Danny
Nov 3
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| Cap Joe try this link for your Garmin bluechart EULA software |
Perry
Nov 4
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| Precisely why I do not use Windoze XP.....(c;
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Larry
Nov 3
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| I bought some 'Nav software' which came with a USB dongle so you can only
use it on one machine at a time.
Peter, |
John
Nov 4
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| Copy protection will continue until the BUYERS wise up and simply refuse to
purchase the products. This is cyclical. Back in the early 80's, on the
old IBM PCs, we went through a period of intense donglitis which infected
millions of PCs until the buyers started to refuse to buy them. Suddenly,
with revenues dwindling, we had a change of heart. Copy protection started
to decline until only the paranoid schitzo software companies were being
cash drained, many going belly up rather than making it easy for the buyers
to use the software. Then, during the big boom days, they were all making
so much cash it didn't seem to matter.....until the bubble burst and Wall
St crashed. Suddenly, Micro$not had a change of heart and, because it
views itself as invincible which may be true, Windoze XP came out with copy
protection. Why is still a mystery. You nearly can't buy a computer
without paying the Micro$not tax on it, even if you use Linux. Change too
many hardware bits and it refuses to boot until "Mother" calls it and gives
it permission. Simply stop buying copy protected crapware and it will all go away shortly.
But, of course, THAT would require boaters to COOPERATE, which isn't going
to happen.....So, the sellers seem to control the market until the buyers
smarten up.
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Larry
Nov 3
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| you are correct .. my bad... two GPS that is.... I find that a rip off but it has been discussed a lot in the GPS
groups... Matt |
web1000
Nov 3
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| Obviously you did not read the post!
I said I had no problems with the stupid practice of limiting the
software to 2 machines. Just that it should be made clear in the advertising
BEFORE PURCHASE!!! I would not have bought it. Bugs and not being of merchantable quality are my problem being caught
out by the hype of advertising. (should read more reviews and ask more questions before purchase) Oliver Fleming "Tom Dacon" <Tom-@t-dacons.com> wrote in message |
Nov 4
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