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Garmin DO NOT BUY IT before you read this!!!

The difference between Garmin blue chart mapping programs, bought either on CD with unlock code - OR - as a PreProgrammed DataCards, is that the first product may be installed on two Garmin GPS units, the second can presently NOT.

Complaint over policy of non allowed duplication of PreProgrammed DataCards for personal use in a second Garmin GPS unit.

My complaint is based on the restriction of dublicating PreProgrammed DataCards beeing so deep imbedded in Garmin and their autorized dealers sales/ordering websites that this is only explained in the third or later web-ordering/info layer.

Instead of clear information about any restriction for a specific product the contrary is being illustrated in the websales and information examples given below which includes phrases such as:

" you are free to go! Conveniently ready determine which format works best."

I believe Garmin more activly, should announce any restrictions of a product up front.

I suggest that Garmin - for the price of the appropriate blank data card, plus a fee for transfering the mapprogram in question to the cardmedia - establishes this service with the same restrictions that applies to the CDmedia.

Such a move by Garmin would set consumers of both product even.

Hans

fen
Nov 4
2005
Why would Garmin have to tell you beforehand that you may not copy their copyrighted material? It is already in the federal laws you are supposed to be aware of. Stop whining man!

Meindert

Meindert
Nov 5
I meant to make a suggestion, not really bitch - and also find out if I was the only one so dumb not to ASK the seller about a thing I did not know at the time, when I became so unlucky to buy the map from a dealer that did not tell.

I think my GPSMAP188C and my GPSMAP188 and the map I have, is just great and would certainly buy the stuff again, this time though a bit more informed. Itīs all about information isīnt it.

At my place CPH the card is ~480$ and the CD ~640$(including a card and USB reader) I would pay the 160$ and some for the card. Maybee Garmin could lock the second card to a specific GPSMAP serialnumber and then I should pay a fee, say 20$, so in all about 200$ for the transaction, still saving me 280$.

Anyway it īs my own dumb fault resulting in a not so dumb suggestion(I think). If Iīm the only guy caught, its not even worth it. Just info and an idea - no bitching. Thanks for the feedback

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fen
Nov 5
Darrel, thank you for your advice, about selling and re-buying.

You, beeing a Garmin seller, surely knows about consumer needs, and how important it is to have them satisfied in the long run. And that is the reason I hope to convince Garmin that they could improve on their costomer service profile in this aspect.

The way to do this in this case, vould be to let a costomer send in his pre-programmed card to Garminīs designated distributor and let this distributor do a single copy on a card. The blank card, the postage and a fee for programing the card of course beeing paid for by the costomer.

Assuming there is a recgonized need AND will, for such a program, some distributorīs may make a buck or two- and the costomer is happy!. A true win-win setup.

Now a sceptic could say:" this has never been done" OR he might even say:" Itīs not fair". But those are really only arguments for the lazy. What happened to TRYING?.

If this proposed solution to the problem of copyprotecting is NOT feasibly technical possible, I shall bow down and forever keep silent and spend my dollars as Iīm supposed to do. Until a wiser points the way. Regards

Hans A semi-happy Garmin costomer

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fen
Nov 4
You are correct, that is our job as a Garmin dealer. Too bad that your tvnav.com
Nov 4
Corporate greed vs. consumer need. Same old story. sugarlump
Nov 5
That is correct. In fact you could load the info on hundreds of cards if tvnav.com
Nov 4
Somehow this discussion has drifted, and Iīm not sure how your wife got into it. Why is it fair that you legally can take a copy off a CDmap but not off a card.

As you write the copy will only work on a specific designated machine(GPS).

I might be dumb, but even I can understand if someone ask me if I want this or that product, explaining the difference between the two. My complaint stems from not having been able to deduct a difference in the mapprogram by way of the media the maps were on, by myself from the web or GUESS it, when I bought the GPSMAP at a marineEXPO, since neither you or the salesperson there told me, then. Please re-read the post again with a friendlier eye.

Not out to scorn Garmin, I think they have a fine product, but I just dont get it do I. Will taking a copy froma CD be managable for Garmin and not harm them, but doing a copy from a card be uncontrolable and swamp us with lawbreakers? Still doīnt get it.

Hans

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fen
Nov 4
It was a simple comparison. Another one......I can't use the engine in tvnav.com
Nov 4
That is incorrect. The info. stays on the data card so it isn't even installed on one GPS. It can be used in multiple GPS's though. Obviously not at the same time though. tvnav.com
Nov 4
My purpose is to get a legal copy of my PreProgrammed DataCard to use in my outside steering station GPS, while the original PreProgrammed DataCard remains in the pilothouse station GPS.

Now, had I bought the mapsoftware on CD, I would have been able to do a transfer to a blank card AND a legal copy to a second blank card (at least that what I believe is correct)

Of course, when I shift steering station I could unplug the card and insert it into the other GPS.

I just would like Garmin to change policy and allow a copy from a PreProgrammed DataCard, as they presently do from a CD.

As I write; this restriction is solely on the PreProgrammed DataCards, it is not obvious to a buyer at the time he/she orders.(wasīnt for me anyway, but you could argue Iīm the only one so dumb)

Youīr right that a Garmincard can be used at all compatible GPSīs, so I did not express myself clear, sorry.

My aim remains though.

Hans

"tvnav.com" <GPS@tvnav.com> skrev i en meddelelse

fen
Nov 4
   

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