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Atlantic Crossing on small power boat ?
I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,
Bayliner 30 footer Aft. bridge. I am doing some changes in boat to get it
ready for this trip.1. Replacing the Gas engine with diesel cauz diesel gives more milage plus
its cheap in Europe as compare to gas.
2. Adding extra fuel tanks to carry diesel fuel.
3. Installing small wind generator for extra electrical power on boat.
4. As back up source, installing 1000watts solar panels and small diesel
generator.
5. Another idea of using some kind of alteration on my outboard unit to
drive it with electric motor as well as engine. Havn't done the calculation
yet but I am sure it is possible. With extra onboard electric power I think
it is possible to use DC motor to drive the propeller shaft atleast for some
time and then switch over to diesel engine.
6. Another wild idea is to add flying kite thingy to my boat for extra pull
under good wind situation, here is the link if some of you is not familar
with this thing: http://www.kiteship.com/id2.html
7. I've already installed small sea water to fresh water converting unit, so
no worries to carry extra water.
8. Getting all the communication equipments like GPS, HF Radio bla bla. Now the last thing .... what route ? should I use Northern route to cut down
the long leg in sea like From New York to Halifax, St. John, Greenland,
Iceland, Scottland and then onward. Or should I go through southern route which most of the sailing boats
normally use, like from Florida to Panamma, Ponta Delgada and Gibraltor etc. I know it sounds like a crazy idea but hey peoples are doing it on rowing
boats, why can't I do it. I am open to suggestions from Folks, Please give me your best shot or any
good advise that help me or warn me of any dangers that I should be aware
off besides normal open sea encounter. Any other thing that I am over
looking here in my preparation ? What month is better ? Which route is good North or South ? |
Awsome
Nov 6 2005
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| You say that like it's a bad thing! |
Charlie
Nov 7
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Was that with the gas cans lashed to the hullsides |
Harry
Nov 6
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| I don't believe he ever owned that Bayliner. Why would someone living in
Derby, Kansas, buy a half-day cruiser? |
Harry
Nov 6
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| I have not been near a computer for three weeks. Is it now the consensus
that Skipper is indeed the original Skipper? Eisboch |
Eisboch
Nov 6
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| Indeed, but a nastier and more removed from reality Skipper. Several
believe he has suffered a stroke and a modest personality change, and
not for the better. Naturally, since he doesn't like me much, the usual
scum are encouraging him. Oh...Skipper seems into full-blown anti-Semitism now. Isn't that nice? |
Harry
Nov 6
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| Since when did you become a BSing spinmeister? Was it about the time you
started shilling for Yeaton's commercial Bayguide? FWIW, you will find many Skipper trip reports in the archives, not just
one. I no longer post them as fodder for trolls such as yourself. A case
could be made that these reports would be far better for the NG than
your continued vitriol. --
Skipper |
Skipper
Nov 6
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| Yours truly, --
Skipper |
Skipper
Nov 6
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| Commercial? Commercial?? Exactly what is for sale at |
Gene
Nov 7
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| And I simply don't suffer fools as gladly as I once did. --
Skipper |
Skipper
Nov 6
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| And not one of them a trip you took in that imaginary Bilgeliner. |
Harry
Nov 6
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| Does that mean you smile more or less when you wear your hat with the
little bells? |
Harry
Nov 6
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| I believe so...at least in some reduced capacity. |
Don
Nov 7
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| Oh, I know what this is about. It's about that Jewfish story I posted a
couple weeks ago. In the story, that Jewfish demanded an exorbitant
amount of interest from me. Harry must think that's how they get their
name? In truth, I suspect Harry would have backed off that kind of
interest as well. --
Skipper |
Skipper
Nov 6
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| Hooo-Boy.... you are going to get on Skipper's bad side with comments
like that.... See, in 1997 or so, Skipper boasted that he spent hours in "fierce
seas" in 25'-30' waves in the Sea of Cortez in his highly modified
2252 Bayliner. He was with two bodies, one of which went into shock!
They spent the evening at sea and all they got for their trouble was a
realization of the, "importance of getting current weather information
while at sea, even IF that report is in Spanish" Pictures? Recent experiences?
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Gene
Nov 6
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| A troll is a troll, Gene, even if that troll calls your wife with an
unwelcome phone call at your home. That said, you might want to check
your source for your above comments. Believe you might just find those
seas were experience in a *sailboat*...and 40 years ago. Does that
change the point you're trying to make? Catch a clue here, Gene,
electronic communications in remote sections of the Cortez were a bit
primitive in those days. You might even find posts were I described the
port of San Carlos before building one was ever built there. So, what is your point, Gene? --
Skipper |
Skipper
Nov 6
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| It wasn't until long after you made a fool of yourself with that b.s.
tale that you tried to recover by saying it was on a sailboat. I had no idea one could generate 25' waves in a bathtub in Derby, Kansas. |
Harry
Nov 6
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| >So, what is your point, Gene? My point is... this is a boating newsgroup. Talk boats. Pictures? Recent boating experiences? If the best you can do is come here and take cheap shots at people,
your best bet is to go back to cruising.... like you said you had been
doing. At least THAT is boating related.....
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Gene
Nov 6
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| Skippy's kind of cruising doesn't involve a boat, but, rather, a open
top car, a warm night, and $5 hookers. |
Harry
Nov 6
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| Sorry you missed the point...yet again, Gene. --
Skipper |
Skipper
Nov 6
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| snip... bad side???...as opposed to what...is there a good side? |
Don
Nov 6
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| He meant 2.5 centimeter waves. |
Don
Nov 6
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| Since you don't seem to get it, let me make another point, while I'm
at it.... You seem hypersensitized to people ridiculing you and your posts.
First, a couple of definitions: Ridiculous:
(1)pathetic: inspiring scornful pity
(2)absurd: incongruous;inviting ridicule
(3)farcical: broadly or extravagantly humorous; resembling farce Ridicule:
(1)language or behavior intended to mock or humiliate
(2)derision: the act of deriding or treating with contempt
(3)Words intended to belittle a person or idea and arouse contemptuous
laughter
(4)Words designed to arouse laughter and contempt for a person, idea,
or institution. The rhetorical goal is to condemn or criticize the
object by ridicule by making it seem suitable only for mockery (ie,
"ridiculous"). An example of one of your posts: "I just returned from a three week, 3300 mile, trip to the Sea of
Cortez with a Bayliner 2252. We had a great time, and many folks
volunteered compliments about our boat. Averaging 40 MPH in normal
Gulf of California seas was very comfortable and dry. Bayliners have
a lot of room for their size." "The Bayliner 2252 provides a VERY comfortable motion in these seas.
Pitch and roll are present, but minimized, as they are on his boat.
Bayliner does a GREAT job of designing a boat with the ability to
minimize motion. His $250,000 42’ sportfisherman WILL have slightly
less motion than the 22’ Bayliner. .... But, the Bayliner 2252
can go EVERYWHERE comfortably that his sportfisherman navigates while
the 42 footer is limited to mostly local waters. " ....dragging a boat 3300 miles should qualify, but I'll chalk that up
to my own personal opinion.... .....Averaging 40 MPH in normal Gulf of California seas .....a 22 foot pocket cruiser can go anywhere a (Hatteras) 42 foot
sport fisherman can..... So, let's recap. When you *did* post boating information it tended
toward the absurd.... when you were called to task for the veracity
and proof of such posts, your response was to become an angry and
defensive poster.... lending credence to your detractors, weakening
your position, and things certainly spiraled out of control from
there. I don't think anybody is "out to get Skipper," but, 10 years later,
you just can't resist poking at that hornet's nest, can you? |
Gene
Nov 6
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| The point is, Skipper, this is STILL rec.BOATS.
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Gene
Nov 6
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| Yeah! Actually there was a happy side to Skipper in 1996-97... that
era. He had a lot of pride of ownership in his Bayliner and the one
trip that he posted some information about. Trouble started when he crossed the line of believability and people
started to question the veracity of his posts..... ..... he has been angry and defensive ever since. Sad, really.
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Gene
Nov 6
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| "It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!" Hypocrital Liberal |
John
Nov 6
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| Might depend on time of year. the window a smaller boat would enjoy on
a northern crossing is pretty small..... maybe May/June till
September/October?? |
Don
Nov 6
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| last year a fleet of nordhavn trawlers made the trip. google for
magazine articles online. or go to the nordhavn website. two suggested routes in may or june: US to bermuda to azores to portugal US to bahamas, hispanola, puerto rico, virgins antigue to azores to
portugal.
editor
http://www.marineenginedigest.com |
ed
Nov 6
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| > Harry will have a lot of those answers, but he's fishing today. Nothin' special about today, as Krause can be found trolling 365 days a
year. You'd think someone so practiced would be much better at it. That
said, I doubt Mr. Jerkbait will be up to such an adventurous Challenge.
Just check the archives under 'challenge'. You'll find Krause is
strictly "nothin' doin'" when it come to competing against those highly
modified Bayliners. Besides, just sit right back and you'll hear a tale, a tale of a fateful
trip. That started from a tropic port, aboard a tiny ship. The mate was
a mighty sailin' man, the Skipper brave and sure. Five passengers set
sail that day, for a three hour tour, a three hour tour... ... ... The weather started getting rough, the tiny ship was Tostito tossed. If
not for the courage of the fearless crew, the Minnow would be lost; the
Minnow would be lost. So this is the tale of our castaways, they're here for a long, long
time. They'll have to make the best of things, it's an uphill climb.
Harry and the Skipper too, will do their very best, to make the others
comfortable, in this tropic island nest. So join us here each day my friend, you're sure to get a smile. From
these stranded castaways, here on Gilligan's Isle. --
Skipper |
Skipper
Nov 6
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| Yes. A bigger boat that doesn't say Bayliner on the side. |
NOYB
Nov 6
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| This isn't a cruise, it's a stunt. Go back to square one. The vessel you have in mind is completely
unsuited to a voyage of this distance. As you add extra fuel tanks, you
will be adding a *lot* of extra weight that a 30-foot Bayliner was
never designed to manage. You will completely violating the original
design parameters of the boat. With your fuel tanks full, you will have
about enough freeboard to safely encounter 3-inch seas. The fact that *nobody* is likely to sell you insurance, at any premium
at all, should tell you something about this plan. You'd need to do a complete study regarding whether or not burning your
limited supply of diesel in a genset to create electrical power to
drive an electrical outboard makes any sense at all. It might be more
efficient to simply burn the fuel in the main engine. There are countless opportunities to go adventuring in a 30-foot
Bayliner, in inland or short range near-coastal situations that the
boat was designed to handle. You can have the time of your life without
having to set out across the Atlantic. Why not use the boat in a
reasonable manner and acquire a more suitable craft for the
trans-oceanic voyage? |
chuckgould.chu...
Nov 6
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| Is it waterproof? Most passagemakers have the ability to completely seal the vessel to
prevent sinking. jps |
jps
Nov 6
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| Some NG readers recognize a troll when they see it. Perhaps other, more
unscrupulous NG netizens, take advantage of these trolls to advance
their scurrilous NW boat shilling agendas.
--
Skipper |
Skipper
Nov 6
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| Purchase a submarine - the effect will be the same. |
Dread
Nov 6
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