Faded Old Fiberglass Boat - TRANSFORMED!

Since you question Skipper's salt water experience, don't you also question Harry's claim to have sailed the "Cape" (Horn) a number of times?

<chuckgould.chuck@gmail.com> wrote in message

I know where there's a big yellow, mid channel buoy with a fog signal built in. I suppose I could motor out to the middle of the sound, do a few circles around the buoy, and claim to have boated around the "horn", but what would be the point? My boating adventures aren't the world's most exciting, nor do they need to be for boating to be fun- which is what this is all about.

As far as the 36-foot lobster boat goes: I would bet big money that Harry owns his Parker. Even one of his regional neighbors, John H, (who is no great fan of Harry) confirms that he owns that boat. I would bet less money on the lobster boat, only because Harry has been less than forthcoming with any real details about the boat. He has claimed its because he is po'd at Skipper and Skipper is demanding the information. As one who shares Psuedo's Schidt List with Mr. Krause, I'm in a unique position to appreciate that perspective. There are some guys to whom you'd hesitate to offer a drink of water if you were crossing a desert in a tanker truck and they were alongside the roadway dying of thirst. Me, I'd be all grumpy about it but I'd probably give him some water. Can't speak for Harry, however. :-)

Conclusion: I have no doubt that Harry owns the Parker. I am not entirely convinced that Harry has more than some partial interest in a Lobster boat- but I could be wrong, and it doesn't matter anyway.

1. has a real name 2. has a real identity 3. has any sort of boat 4. has any of the accomplishments for which he puts others down

Smithers is a complete and utter fraud.

Which is why I don't read his posts and only see some of them on a second hand basis.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes

-- Skipper

http://tinyurl.com/9lkpe

Now get lost.

You put some temporary shine on a wasted old finish by covering it with a petroleum based product. It worked. It won't last. Maintaining that psudeo "finish" would soon be more work and eventually cost more money than just simply painting the boat.

Word to the wise: rec.boats is a tough neighborhood where a lot of psychological bullies and misfit nerds hang out. Should you ever dare express an opinion on any subject here, expect to be treated badly by one group or another. Expect to be flamed for posting "off-topic" by a group that includes members reduced to copying paragraphs from Steinbeck or Hemmingway books in order to have anything remotely related to boating to post here, and spends many hours a day immersed in flame wars and trying to start even more. Some members of this group will scorch you for posting "off topic", in a week where they have launched 15-30 off-topic threads of their own design. Yes it sounds ridiculous, but stick around- seeing is believing.

It would be good idea to hang out here a while and learn the various "personalities" if you think you want to post to rec boats. (For instance, swearing at JimH was just about as politically wrong a move as you could have made.) Odds are, if you do hang out here for a while and learn the various personalities, you won't bother to post and you'll move on to a less ridiculous, less explosive venue.

Good luck with rec.boats, and let us know when the shine starts to get sticky, faded, and blotchy on that old boat. :-)

Very few people in the NG have ever met me, and maybe 18-24 months after you did you posted the following opinion (from April, 2002).

Quote: We all make mistakes. I believe her wordy and somewhat insulting debate

with Chuck Gould was nothing more than that, a small personal miscalculation. I've met Mr. Gould and have had business dealings with him. You would look long and hard to find a more honest and knowledgeable broker. His boating views *are* worthy of note.

End Quote:

Even though I was no longer working as a broker when you posted this, I thought the comment that one would have to "look long and hard to find a more honest and knowledgeable broker" was reasonably complimentary. No reason to be upset. You won't find anybody who has personally dealt with me to refute that sentiment, except for maybe some lame nerd someplace who now claims his own statement was a lie.....not because it wasn't true, but because it doesn't fit his new agenda. If he is so fast and loose with the truth that his version of truth changes with the pages on the calendar, nobody will pay him any attention. Besides, he now claims he was somehow treated dishonestly in a boat deal- when ne *never bought a boat*! That's pretty tough to do. :-)

What's on the agenda for today? More of Mrs. Psuedo's holiday recipes? A few more pages copied from Steinbeck to establish your "boating" credentials? I can hardly wait....

My foggy recollection of Skipper's boating knowledge seems to be that he was very well read on the subject but lacked practical experience. You could see how little tidbits of one school of thought and those of another would get jumbled up into a weird third (pretty unworkable) compromise......the sort of thing that sets one off on a multi-year quest for the "perfect" boat, all the while still unsure, (he claims) even whether he wants to go with power or sail. Given the oportunity, (hard to find in KS), Dave might have been able to vet the confilicting theories with some actual experience.

My impression is that Skipper has gone charter fishing (on boats owned by others) down in the Gulf of California a few times or more. You may recall a post where somebody found a photo of Dave Mann on a charter boat operator's web site. It is from these experiences that he claims extensive expertise regarding boating in the Sea of Cortez.

I doubt the 22-footer ever saw any saltwater, stories of braving 20-30 foot breaking waves down in Mexico with the little runabout notwithstanding. In the latest version of the truth, I believe he now claims he braved that "Torito" on a sailboat. Confuses heck out of me- I can't figure out where you'd mount the mast on that runabout he used to own, or why one would carry a collection of portable gas cans to extend the range of a sailing vessel; and he previously insisted he survived that storm in his Bayliner......oh well.

Why would you descend to her level, however?

You made a bigger deal than was maybe required about the obvious SPAM, and she reacted badly. (I don't find her commercial for a boating related product any more or less ridiculous than the anti-semitic Psuedo JC ((as in Julia Child, the recipe gal)) who has been posting recipes all day or Harry's non-stop citation of the latest bad poll numbers for GWB).

Insinuating that she screws her way into real estate deals was maybe a bit unwarranted. You don't actually know the woman, right? It's kind of a stretch from posting spam in what's left of our boating NG (God forbid that somebody not follow all the rules here) to selling houses on your back or knees.

No big deal. Carry on.

-- Skipper

-- Skipper

BTW: Is that you on the webpage Lynn?

You do look like you are pretty loose honey, bleached blonde and all.

acoolway2sayit wrote:

== "My name is Lynn and you and go @%*# Yourself! I just spent all weekend using something that help me. Assholes like you make this country of FREE Speech just wonderful! Hope your boat stays ungly! Mine looks great! BTW, do get your kicks by showing your ass and your lack of knowledge?" ======

Do you support SPAM and obscene language in this NG Chuck?

Go figure....eh?