Brunswick Rules
And Brunswick owns great builders like Bayliner and Hatteras, and a few
lesser makes like Sea Pro and Whaler.--
Skipper |
Skipper
Nov 19
2005
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| Gene, Did you take the pictures? How old is the boat? There is pitting on
the hard top supports and the graphics appear to be from a Trophy 3-5
years old. What happened to the engine(s)? It looks like two may have
been mounted. It is also odd that the seats and steering wheel are gone
but the VHF is still there. Unless you got this info firsthand, I would lean toward physical damage
(storm/accident, etc.) based on the photos. Dan |
Dan
Nov 21
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| Yes. This is a storage yard and at one time I stored my boat near this |
Gene
Nov 21
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| Oh gawd, now you want us to believe a 2nd hand fisherman's tale. Your
"proof" just went poof! --
Skipper |
Skipper
Nov 20
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| Some of us have heard the Wiffenpoofs: "listening" to you wheezenpoof
ain't the same. No one who really knows outboard fishing boats is much impressed with
Bayliner Trophies. Annoy Conservatives: Share! |
Harry
Nov 20
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| Gale force? Hell, that charlatan posted a photo of a hurricane damaged
boat! He has no integrity at all. --
Skipper |
Skipper
Nov 20
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| Yep, hurricane Whatever. --
Skipper |
Skipper
Nov 20
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| Try again, cowboy. I was responding to a post from Gene, not a post from
Smitherscrap.
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Harry
Nov 20
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| Harry,
You responded to a post Gene made, but your response was to a statement I
made in a separate post, that no one responded to. Don't worry, we
understand. You can't help yourself. |
Sir
Nov 20
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| What whoops?
I responded to a post from Gene. This post: Gene Kearns wrote:
> > On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:27:26 -0500, Harry Krause
> > <harry.krause@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
>> >> Gene Kearns wrote:
>>> >>> As first, I concluded that the link was OK, since others had gotten
>>> >>> in. However, upon further investigation I concluded that you were
>>> >>> trying to access the website from a blacklisted site.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> At one time, I had so many hacking attempts from Comcast's
24.98.0.0
>>> >>> to 24.99.255.255 IP block, I just blacklisted the whole block.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> There are many IP blocks blacklisted.... all because of hacking. If
>>> >>> anyone else tries and can't get in, let me know and I'll try to
give
>>> >>> you access.
>> >>
>> >> I had no problems accessing the site.
> >
> > Just checked, Smithers is browsing, now.... so he go in OK.
> >
> > If you are posting from Comcast, you are, likely, not using the same
> > (geographical) server farm as Smithers...
> > You let Smithers in?
There goes the neighborhood. Oh, I know I'm not using the same server as Smithers. I just wanted to
leave some sand on the floor for the twerp.
|
Harry
Nov 20
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| Harry, this is worth reading twice. On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 17:18:38 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" <Ask me about my
knighthood.> wrote: |
John
Nov 20
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| Uh, huh. |
John
Nov 20
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| Harry, are you from Texas? |
John
Nov 20
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| LOL. Dan |
Dan
Nov 20
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| Gene,
Please check the link to the broken boat to see if you typed it correctly,
it doesn't seem to be working. |
Sir
Nov 20
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| Another example of why I would never go out of sight of land on a Bayliner. |
Harry
Nov 20
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| As first, I concluded that the link was OK, since others had gotten
in. However, upon further investigation I concluded that you were
trying to access the website from a blacklisted site. At one time, I had so many hacking attempts from Comcast's 24.98.0.0
to 24.99.255.255 IP block, I just blacklisted the whole block. There are many IP blocks blacklisted.... all because of hacking. If
anyone else tries and can't get in, let me know and I'll try to give
you access. On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 06:05:37 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" <Ask me
about my knighthood.> wrote: |
Gene
Nov 20
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| I had no problems accessing the site. |
Harry
Nov 20
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| Gene, Damn, that boat took a beating. Do you have any idea what the water
conditions were? Somehow I can't believe that was in normal boating /
fishing tournament conditions, the boat was beat to shit. I have seen
other boats take a beating like that, including sailboats that lost their
masts, and had bulkhead separation, but it always was in gale force winds. I know a price point boat will not stand up in offshore conditions as long
as a quality boat will, but that seems excessive. |
Sir
Nov 20
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| Gene,
I looked at those pictures again, and it appears that their are abrasions
marks on the fiberglass. My guess is the boat hit someone. |
Sir
Nov 20
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| Harry,
Take a look at your IP, it doesn't fall in the IP block Gene had
blacklisted. You need to improve your reading comprehension skills. |
Sir
Nov 20
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| Just checked, Smithers is browsing, now.... so he go in OK. If you are posting from Comcast, you are, likely, not using the same
(geographical) server farm as Smithers...
|
Gene
Nov 20
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| I was wondering the same. I was thinking it might be a hurricane damaged
boat. The one picture has a rope being tied off to what appears to be an
impact hole. Regardless, conditions that can cause that kind of damage
would be more than unpleasant in any boat. |
thunder
Nov 20
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| You let Smithers in?
There goes the neighborhood. Oh, I know I'm not using the same server as Smithers. I just wanted to
leave some sand on the floor for the twerp.
|
Harry
Nov 20
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| It was a fishing tournament and there were really rough fishing
conditions..... some people chose not to venture out.... I don't think
anybody went *that* far out..... The transom damage was caused by the water conditions.... AFAIK, the
remainder of the damage was caused by the USCG (who towed it) and/or
the company hired to remove the boat from the water. After righting
the boat, the company hired to remove the hull from the water tried to
lift the hull up high enough to begin pumping water.... unfortunately
the cleats pulled out of the hull and the thing flipped over again, in
the concrete slip,.... thus, causing a lot of the visible damage and
scrapes.
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Gene
Nov 20
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| Harry,
and you say you have me filtered. ; ) |
Sir
Nov 20
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| Whoops! |
John
Nov 20
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| Believe it was Bayliner's award winning designs and huge success in the
market that allowed them to take over struggling boat builders like Sea
Pro. Those hard riding and wet Sea Pros, in particular, should benefit
greatly once they tap into that highly talented Bayliner design brain
trust. --
Skipper |
Skipper
Nov 19
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| Ol slipknot is up to his old tricks. Troll away.
"Skipper" <fairwinds@cox.net> wrote in message |
JIMinFL
Nov 20
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| #1 Don't talk to yourself. It's weird.
#2 Don't start a new thread with a single post from an older, larger
thread. It's out of context. Hmm... maybe that's your intention.
#3 Don't start a new thread from ANY existing threads. Try responding.
That's what people do.
#4 What the hell does this have to do with the original thread?
#5 This is an obvious troll to rile up the Bayliner owners. Try harder
next time. People aren't that stupid.
#6 What boat do you own right now? Dan |
Dan
Nov 20
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| He's had a stroke,has arthritic knees, a wife who get seasick and had a
run-in with the DoJ, is boatless, and has to spend the rest of his life
in Derby, Ksnsas. That's enough to make any drooler snarly. So he lashes
out. But he's found soulmates in Smithers and Herring.
|
Harry
Nov 19
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| Here's a photo of Skipper's boat. He bought himself a banana boat. http://tinyurl.com/csgp8 |
Harry
Nov 19
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| I SWEAR that I see him grinning from just under the middle cherry. No
kidding.
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Gene
Nov 20
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~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Southport, NC. http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/ Homepage*
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide |
Gene
Nov 20
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| You think he still has that many teeth?
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Harry
Nov 19
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| Sheesh! I was just trying recount a little nautical history and get us
back on topic. Some folks are just a bit too sensitive, dislike phactual
data, or are just not into boating history, I guess. --
Skipper |
Skipper
Nov 19
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| Don't rush me..... I'm thinking.....
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Gene
Nov 20
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| If only you'd done that BEFORE getting that Grady. --
Skipper |
Skipper
Nov 19
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| No one with two working synapses is going to get into a "discussion"
with you over Grady-Whites vs. Bayliners, Adolf. |
Harry
Nov 19
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| You think? --
Skipper |
Skipper
Nov 19
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| Frankly, I dislike "phactual data" when presented as truth. On the
other hand, "Fractured Fairy Tales" is humorous, when present as such. Problem is, you lack critical discrimination skills in determining the
difference in "phacts" and "Fairy Tales." That, obviously, results in
the frustrations you experience in your perceptions of people laughing
behind your back.... which, frankly, aren't all that far off target,
but are grossly mis-perceived as meanspirited when they are,
realistically, rooted in a practical comparison of your reality vs.
everybody else's. Sorry for the "buzz-kill."
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Gene
Nov 20
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| Oh, I did *some* thinking. I *did* truly identify some really good
boats... but I found an excellent deal on a Grady... not that I
wouldn't be proud of owning a lot of other good brands.... (obviously,
by definition, not including Bayliner or Trophy) and there are a lot
of good ones out there... but this Grady made economic sense to me. So, bottom line, I bought a really good boat for really good money. Having thought, however, *before* I bought, I had no need to
"re-engineer" my boat as you were forced to do with the.... "highly
modified Bayliner" that your wasted money on. (ps... Don't blame you
for dumping it on that lowlife lawyer!) The Grady-White came with all
of the necessary appurtenances, no mandatory additions necessary! Actually, I thought we had solved this many years prior. Have you
forgotten? If necessary, since I run my own news server, I can repost
the original information, posting factual information (verbatim)
concerning the Grady having much greater speed, range, freeboard, etc,
(factory specs. vs. factory spec.) well...... suffice to say, plus all
of those fishing appurtenances you claim to have added. Now, granted, the Bayliner has an arguably better use of space, but
that lends little solace when you have the big one on a line.... and,
well, who the hell wants to entertain a crowd overnight on a 22-23
foot boat and, truthfully? (with the GradyBracket and pulpit, my boat
measures more like 29 feet). (Unless, of course, they are juggies!
Right?) ((PS.. if this doesn't make sense, please watch, "The Man
Show".)) Oh, jeeze, that Brunswick thing again... ok, here is how a Brunswick
boat (Trophy) fares in the *real* sea conditions off of North
Carolina. Yeah, I know, they are great lake, bay, and Sea of Cortez
boats..... but this is what happens when they hit *real* water in a
fishing tournament:
http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/boating/brokenboat/index.htm This is a Bayliner Trophy (owned by a dealer) that simply broke apart
during a fishing tournament off of Carolina Beach. Sorry, Skipper,
this is what happens when you ask a Bayliner to do a *real* boat's
job. PS... this is not a Z-like boat. It is verifiably real... so is the
trashed Trophy.... I can show you both and let you put your hands on
them. If you want to challenge *me* you better be able to pony up....
because I am *real*.
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Gene
Nov 20
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| Ah, then you've heard about that lobster boat also. > Problem is, you lack critical discrimination skills in determining the
> difference in "phacts" and "Fairy Tales." I must respectfully disagree. Those lobster boat tales Krause has been
spinning on this NG for years do seem like fairy tales to me. Do they
appear phactual to you? --
Skipper |
Skipper
Nov 19
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| In honesty? No. I can discern nothing verifiable about any "lobsta" |
Gene
Nov 20
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| = Gene, you brought him out of hiding, now put him back. I had sort of
missed his predictably cantankerous presence for a while but I've
gotten over it. |
Wayne.B
Nov 20
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| = Jeez, looks like it just fell apart doesn't it. Who wudda thunk that
would have happened? |
Wayne.B
Nov 20
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