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Five Day Chatroom Challenge

Our NG has become a chatroom. No other way to define what has happened, when 90% or more of the content is OT and 50% or more of the OT posts devolve into political name calling and flame fests. Boats are probably mentioned more often in a general chatroom, by accident, than they are here on rec.boats on purpose.

I propose a 5 day challenge to the entire chatroom.

For five days, let's pretend we're a boating newsgroup.

That would be the remainder of today, the 20th, through Saturday the 24th.

During this period of time, I propose that the group of worst offenders, self included, take the lead in this challenge by doing the following things.

1. Refrain from launching any sort of political or religious thread. 2. Resist name calling and put personal feuds aside. 3. Resist the temptation to respond to any political threads trolled through the NG 4. Launch a minimum of two boating-related threads (not required of non-boaters) 5. Evaluate the effectiveness of this 5 day challenge on December 25

For this to work at all, I believe we need Harry, Basskisser, JimH, John H, Doug Kanter, Skipper, NOYB, P.Fritz, and Smithers (under all of his 1000 names), to sign on. The occasional offenders, not mentioned above, would need to participate as well. For this to work, anybody who elects to participate would have to be adult enough to ignore violations by others rather than use those violations as a justification or an excuse to resume OT trolling, flaming and chatting. Participants would need to assume responsibility for their own behavior, and not allow it to be dictated by the bad actions of others.

So the gauntlet is thrown. I'm in for the five days. Anybody else willing to experiment to see whether the overall tone of the chatroom/NG would change if a group of the worst offenders modified their behavior here? If not, things will be at least slightly better for five days while I personally follow the 5 guidelines.

It's solstice. The world is taking a new slant and the sun is coming back (to the north). Wouldn't this be an appropriate time to stop the decline of the NG and bring a bit of boating sunshine back? It would be a holiday or Christmas gift to the group, from the group, and for the group. :-)

chuckgould.chu...
Dec 20
2005
Well that's a given. Shortwave
Dec 20
I'm in. And my killfiling a couple of constant offenders listed above will help. ;-)
Dec 20
A few of us have been doing this for a couple days. Can we start being our old selves on the 23rd?

BTW, Harry has excelled, except for a few political posts. -- John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!*****

JohnH
Dec 20
There's an outfit in Deale that makes T-tops, radar arches, etc. Don't remember the name, but they're on the corner of Bay Front Rd (the highway coming from Rt 4) and Rockhold Creek Rd.

-- John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!*****

JohnH
Dec 20
But color me in also. -- John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!*****

JohnH
Dec 20
Eastern or Pacific time? NOYB
Dec 20
LMAO P
Dec 20
Harry's disorder still clouds his mind..i.e. I'm not the problem, everyone else is. Maybe harry can start a thread on the pleasures of storing a boat in your driveway 364 days a year. P
Dec 20
Or a band. Shortwave
Dec 20
Ditto... Shortwave
Dec 20
Sorry, Tom, but you don't qualify as a drooler. I know that is a major disappointment for you. :>} Harry
Dec 20
I'm in, although I reserve the right to "grandfather" any existing threads. They're about to fizzle out anyway, so it shouldn't have much of an effect. Doug
Dec 20
Yeah, figures you'd weasel out of it somehow.

Dork. :>)

Shortwave
Dec 20
I broke my cherry, Doug. Got a working email? I'll send you a foto. Harry
Dec 20
~~ sigh ~~

And I try so hard.

Shortwave
Dec 20
Not hard enough. Harry
Dec 20
Did you notice Chuck's well meaning advice: "For this to work, anybody who elects to participate would have to be adult enough to ignore violations by others rather than use those violations as a justification or an excuse to resume OT trolling, flaming and chatting.

Participants would need to assume responsibility for their own behavior, and not allow it to be dictated by the bad actions of others"

atl_man2
Dec 20
So if I call you a caluminous common-kissing mumble-news you will ignore it?

How about thou appeareth nothing to me but a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours? Will you ignore that?

And just to keep this boating related: Thy brain is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage.

Ignnore that last one dumbass. :>)

Shortwave
Dec 20
Obviously. Shortwave
Dec 20
See how easy this is? There's one of your two boating topics if you're up for the "chatroom challenge". Why not write up a couple of paragraphs about welding and bending stainless steel? Somebody will find it at least as exciting as most of the content seen here lately. :-) chuckgould.chu...
Dec 20
Oh, I used to post things like that, but I stopped, as did a number of other posters. Why? Because some drooler would post that "doing it that way is completely wrong, and you should have done it the other way, and so on and so forth." Not that I mind alternative methodology, but the generally antagonistic atmosphere is off-putting.

Look at what happens when someone like Bill Grannis posts something here of a technical nature. In short order, the great troll of the southern hemisphere shows up with fangs bared. Well, that's how most real discussions here got tossed into the dumpster.

I think I'll just wait and see, eh?

Harry
Dec 20
LOL,

GMT.

Smithers
Dec 20
Tom, All of those are ok, I will let you know when you find one that isn't. Smithers
Dec 20
One of the greatest assets of Usenet is the divergence of opinions regarding on-topic subjects/procedures. The *reader* is given the opportunity to 'shop' the variety of routes offered. Get it wrong, and you can be sure you'll hear from a Karen of Oz or Bill Grannis. This is not a bad thing, it's the intelligent way for an open forum to investigate alternatives. This also gives an open board a distict advantage over the BoaterEds of the world.

-- Skipper

Skipper
Dec 20
I'm betting you were successful when you first laid eyes on that Halman 20. Don
Dec 20
What if you called him Kevin? NOYB
Dec 20
Not fair. That gives folks from Australia an extra 16-18 hours to speak without a response. NOYB
Dec 20
NYOB, If you lived in Australia you would understand why they deserve something extra.

The country is full of X-Cons.

Smithers
Dec 20
Our ex-cons *lose* rights...rather than get "something extra". Unless, of course, that that something extra is an GPS ankle bracelet. NOYB
Dec 20
Damn it.I have to clean the monitor again P
Dec 20
Chuck, I am way ahead of you. That has been my MO for a number of days now.

<chuckgould.chuck@gmail.com> wrote in message

Smithers
Dec 20
ps - I hope you enjoy my new name ; ). Smithers
Dec 20
No offense, Chuck, but six of the individuals you've mentioned, along with some others, have already been "signed off" on my computer.

With the droolers eliminated from my sight, what's left is about a dozen of us who are serious pleasure boaters and of these, maybe a half dozen post on any regular basis.

I do discriminate a bit. I don't count those "boating posts" I would consider throwaways. I think you know the kind I mean.

So what does that leave to discuss, Chuck? Got a list of subjects that hasn't been exhausted that would interest a group widely scattered geographically?

I've got some stainless steel tubing and am thinking of putting together a trolling rod holder that will handle slip into two existing stern rod holders and handle four rod holders whose angles I can adjust. Exciting, eh? I can handle the welding, but I have to find a good local motorcycle shop to handle a bit of pipe bending for me.

Harry
Dec 20
The Droolers, that sounds like a good name for a yacht club. ; ) Smithers
Dec 20
   

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