E-Tec warning
Yes the endless "software" upgrades have begun it's exactly like the
Ficht debacle. Anyway don't say you haven't been warned this is aboating
NG & this is motors the NG users pay hugely for so # 7/24/05 8:08:00 PM Submitted by Bulletbuoy (69.14.99.177) from
MICHIGAN says Lol must be bad more like it
As of Friday at the Everstart they had on the Detroit River. The e-tech
had 3 blown power heads, one boat's motor caught on fire and blew the
cowling 30 feet in the error. Forcing the gentlemen aboard to abandon
ship. LOL E tech went over like a fat kid in dodgeball on erie. |
K.
2005
2006
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| Don't go near them:-) Yes they can be very cheap & yes they'll offer a
fairy tale long warranty, but ..... last time that was no use to
thousands & thousands of people taken in. Remember the huge deep
pocketed & technically savvy corp Bombardier got out of this very early
on (wonder why???). You're now dealing with another corp entity, I have
no idea as to it's structure but if you are going to buy you should. Do some google groups searching & you'll see the sadness caused by ficht
& then decide not to risk your pleasure time turning into an expensive
nightmare. K |
K.
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| > Hey, next we might even be hearing that diesel motors put out less |
K.
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| No. There really is no point in discussing your set opinions. |
Gene
Jan 1
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| Good morning Gene, and Happy New Year. Looks like the group is pretty quiet this AM.
Too much partying maybe?
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JohnH
Jan 1
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| (Keywords: ; Expiry: ; Reply: ) On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 08:10:07 -0500 in rec.boats, JohnH penned the
following thoughts: >Good morning Gene, and Happy New Year. Looks like the group is pretty quiet this AM.
>Too much partying maybe? Good morning and a Happy New Year to you, too! Yeah, probably a lot of
black coffee, aspirin, and for those really hard-core, hair of the
dog... on the menu out there! For us, one thing that has come with advancing years is moderation
and, hence, a better start to the New Year.... :-)
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Gene
Jan 1
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| You are of course correct Gene & certainly I don't think it's funny in |
K.
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| Hi Matt, These are a few just for you:-) But I need to keep some power dry for
the E-Tec spruikers who will infest this place as soon as the nthn
summer returns:-) But hey I'm confidently & yes sadly predicting there
will be no shortage of powder, just as there wasn't when it was called
ficht:-) Take care, it's your hard earned money. http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/bassboard/boats_motors/T82386.htm http://forums.screamandfly.com/forums/printthread.php?t=76469 http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/bassboard/boats_motors/T82453.htm http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/003712.html K |
K.
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| I fail to see what could possibly be, "bloody beautiful!!!:-)" about |
Gene
Dec 31
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| Karen, I can be gone for a year or more from this N/G and come back and you are
still talking about the same issues. IMHO, you must have a personal problem with this company or any company for
that matter that is trying to do the responsible thing for the environment
by trying to reduce the amount of emissions that outboard motors emit. Hey, next we might even be hearing that diesel motors put out less
particulate emissions than gasoline motors. Do you have any solutions for the problems they have with these engines or
do you just want to "keep the pot stirred". Fredo thinking to self: "When I buy my retirement boat I will make sure it's
a S/V with an auxiliary power plant".
Then the problem becomes can I sail it by myself or will I just be stuck in
the harbor hunched over a keyboard every day. |
FREDO
Dec 31
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| I will buy two engines for my Tolman Skiff this year. Probably a 2
cycle (weight) 75-90 hp primary and a 9 hp kicker. So, what is the
story on OMC and the FICHT engines? Any engine reccomendations for
either a new or slightly used engine? |
dbohara
Dec 31
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| maybe the issue is about that. Ficht not ETEc Manufacturer Identification Code Details for Recall Number 010055T Number:
010055T MIC: Company:
BOMBARDIER LTD Company Official:
OMC Model Name:
EVINRUDE 200 & 225 HP Model Year:
99 & 20 Problem 1:
FUEL SYSTEM Problem 2: HIN: Case Open Date:
04/10/2001 Disposition:
CLOSED Case Close Date: Units:
9000 Campaign Open Date:
04/04/2001 Boat Type:
0 Campaign Close Date:
08/14/2002 Severity:
H Comments:
EVINRUDE 200 & 225 HP OUTBOARD ENGINES ARE FUEL INJECTED USING FICHT
TECHNOLOGY. BOMBARDIER RECENTLY ACQUIRED OMC AND IS ISSUING A REPAIR
KIT WHICH ADDRESSES THE PROBLEM OF FUEL TUBES DISENGAGING FROM THE
INJECTOR UNITS RESULTING IN FIRES AND EXPLOSIONS. RECALL LTR SENT 12
APRIL 01 TO MARTINE RENAUD. CLOSED BASED ON CUR REPORT THAT 91% OF
AFFECTED UNITS HAVE BEEN CORRECTED. ORIGINAL REQUEST TO CLOSE SUBMITTED
4/29/02. ACTION DELAYED UNTIL 8/14/02 DUE TO PERSONNEL CHANGEOVER. |
web1000
Dec 31
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| as someone thinking of buying an ETec I appreciate to hear of ANY
suspicous or FICHT like issues ... so if powerheads blow up that IS AN
ISSUE ! I have never heard that happen to a Yamaha 4 stroke. Not once so 3
ETecs per day indicates the FICHT curse is still there I also like to see more data and like to know where the original post
came from. No source no value. Matt |
web1000
Dec 31
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| P.S. the post may be from here: http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/bassboard/boats_motors/T84471.htm didnt have time to find it yet Later Matt |
web1000
Dec 31
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| \ If the source is Karen Smith of Australia, the data is suspicious. |
Harry
Dec 31
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| It was Merc Verados. Nice try Karen. |
Shortwave
Dec 31
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| Better than nice Tom, it's bloody beautiful!!!:-) the post is clear in
what it says, 3 (count 'em three!!) E-Tecs blow at the Everstart (& it
seems that was "as of Friday"), what are you saying now, the rest of the
boating community are just making this up??? I mean do you go to OMC
dealer classes to be able to post this BS??? Even as OMC went into
bankruptcy the dealers were still trying that line to make one last sale
to the gullible, give it up:-) I'd guess if it wasn't so there would be at least
one other person from that tournament saying it wasn't so?? So it's me just making sure people are kept up to date with how the
latest Ficht experiment is coming along:-) Yes yes we all know they keep
reducing the prices & finding out what the real price is very difficult,
but hey that's what they did trying to flog the fichts, gave the dealers
a 30% markup in rebates etc, so I suppose that might explain why the
dealers will say & do most anything to hook another sucker:-) Given the detonation vibration/abuse fuel leaks are back (remember the
coast guard ordered a ficht safety recall over them last time??) might I
seriously suggest you wear head protection when you use yours, after all
wouldn't want to see you knocked silly by a blown away cowling:-) Fear not Tom, I'll do my best to keep you up to date on developments as
the latest consumer funded lean burn at power experiment goes off. Why
have Bomb even gotten away from them???? K |
K.
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