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PFD makes the difference in a hypthermia situation??

The guy without the pfd probably used up too much body heat trying to stay afloat. Even with a full fledged response within 4 minutes of the report, our cold PACNW waters claimed another life. Always a sad and tragic event. Wonder if he said, "I'm willing to bet my life I won't need a pfd today!"?

Office of Public Affairs U.S. Coast Guard Thirteenth District

Press Release Date: Jan 28, 2006 Contact: PA3 Jeff Pollinger (206) 819-9157

MAN DIES AFTER SAILBOAT IS KNOCKED DOWN BY WIND GUST NEAR VASHON ISLAND

SEATTLE - A man died Saturday after he was ejected from a recreational sailing vessel near Vashon Island after a wind gust pushed the boat on its side about 12:20 p.m.

At 12:24 p.m., the Coast Guard was notified by the King County Emergency Dispatch Center that three men and a woman were in the water after being thrown from their sailboat. Two of the men and the woman were able to climb back on board the vessel.

Coast Guard Station Seattle immediately diverted a 25-foot response boat to search for the missing man at 12:25 p.m.

An HH-65 Dolphin helicopter from Coast Guard Air Station Port Angeles was also launched to assist with the search and rescue operation.

Additionally, the Tacoma Fire Department's rescue vessel provided assistance.

At 12:52 p.m., a Vashon Fire Department boat transported one of the men in the sailboat to an awaiting ambulance on shore. The man survived.

The third man was located in the water by the Coast Guard helicopter, and a Des Moines Fire Department rescue boat was directed to the same location. The man was recovered from the water and then transferred to the Coast Guard helicopter waiting on the beach, which transported him to the Harborview Hospital in Seattle.

The third man, who was not wearing a life jacket, was pronounced dead at 3:02 p.m.

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The U.S. Coast Guard is a military, maritime, multi-mission service within the Department of Homeland Security dedicated to protecting the safety and security of America.

chuckgould.chu...
Jan 29
2006
A lot of body heat is lost when one flails arms and legs around trying to tread water. A PFD allows a MOB to stay afloat while curled up, knees against the chest, to minimize the body's exposure to the cold water.

Up here, there is no such thing for most people as a few hours. Some are unconcious in a matter of minutes, others take 30- minutes to an hour before the body core cools to the point where vital organs such as the brain, heart, and lungs shut down.

chuckgould.chu...
Jan 30
true..... ~^
Jan 30
oh yea....in very cold water...it is a matter of mns and seconds... you have to expierence the cold water to understand/believe it...

throw some fatigue and booze in to make death real quick...

~^
Jan 30
you can get hypothermic in 90º water if you spend enough time in it - its just a matter of time.

weve had cases here in woodstock and up in webster where the big lake is of people getting hypothermic in water that were in the 70ºs.

Shortwave
Jan 30
A lowly pwc'er and kayaker, I always wear a full dry suit (and other thick neoprene gear for head, feet, hands) and neoprene pfd when the water is cold - and the only few times in my long jetskiing career when I have fallen (been thrown) into the water, seem to have all been in the off-season (in months like November-Dec. or Mar.-April) when the water was good and cold, and in a dry suit and several layers of warm clothes, was always able to easily swim back to my 'ski with no problem. For all that we jetskiiers are supposed to be I guess the dumbest of boaters, we're the only ones who ALWAYS have our pfd's on, and are pretty much always geared up to maximize our chances against hypothermia in conditions where it is likely to be an issue.

richforman

rforman61
Jan 30
Not guaranteed to. For that you need a real 'live vest'. Don
Jan 30
heh, heh...when i was active with our dive rescue team, i made the mistake of donig an ice dive in a heavy wet suit.

i will never do that again. the shock was incredible and i never did warm up.

i am very warm blooded.

Shortwave
Jan 30
It's not unusual to *not* be able to walk or talk after removal from freezing (or even just cold) water.

Hypothermia is little understood by the public, and many people's first encounter with it is their last.

One thing those guys at the "Polar Bear Clubs" who like to jump into a hole chopped in their local frozen body of water, is that a certain percentage of people have immediate cardiac arrest. Seems to be a "bell curve" thing, a few (very few!) people are almost immune to cold water immersion.

Furthermore, age & physical condition have nothing to do with it. I had the experience of pulling a *very* fit college athlete out of our lake, after he slipped getting off his jetski. He fell in knee-deep water and was out like a light. He would have certainly died, if I and a couple of his buddies hadn't been standing there watching, and pulled him out.

Depending on how cold the water is, a life jacket will make a big difference for a while. It will keep you able to breath, and will help preserve the body core temp. And if nothing else, it will make your body easier to find.

Fresh Breezes Doug King

DSK
Jan 30
I thought you guys boated in Mustang immersion suits up there in July and August. Don't you have to wear two suits in January? :>} Harry
Jan 29
my understanding is that a PFD will hold your head above water....that's where most heat is lost....it may buy you an extra few hours....or so.... ~^
Jan 29
Not all PFD types keep your head above water. Harry
Jan 29
True. The ones advertised to save your ass ... hold you head down.

RCE

RCE
Jan 29
When sailing cold or rough waters and I'm the only one who can make a quick COB recovery, I wear a tether. I always wear a pfd when there's any doubt about someone recovering me. I will leave the pfd in the cockpit when sailing warm weather, warm calm water and I've got good crew on board.

The USCG tells us over and over how many lives can be saved if pfd's were worn and alcohol were saved for the end of the day. My fear of drowning motivates me to wear safety gear; what motivates people to not wear safety gear?

Cold water and bravado or machismo or fashion concerns don't mix.

Bryan
Jan 30
>True. The ones advertised to save your ass ... hold you head down.

Hehe, not bad. Any PFD that does not keep your head up is not worth wearing. The main value in cold water is to keep you breathing after you pass out from the cold, otherwise you are gone as soon as you loose conciousness or muscle control. I was in near freezing water for about 15 minutes or so as a kid. The impact is unbelievable when you first hit the water, and I was barely able to walk or talk when I got out.

Wayne.B
Jan 29
   

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