motor ran for 1/2 second out of water
I had a brain fart and started the motor and it ran for literally less
than one second while the motor was tilted up. I immediately realized
my mistake and cut motor off. Motor is brand new, E-tec 90.Is there likely to be any impeller issues? |
Charlie
Mar 26
2006
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| Yes I do have things against these motors Charlie & the OMC dealers who
deceptively market them, having explained the reasons many times over
the years. I agree "many" E-Tecs certainly the huge majority will probably survive
but remember even when they called them Ficht the majority survived. Of
course statistics from the manufacturer like 4 out of five didn't fail
doesn't mean much if you are number 5, as far as number 5 is concerned
the failure rate is 100%. We actually have people in this NG who claimed
to have bought more!!!!; what? just to get the failure percentages
down:-) But those claims are just that; NG claims from lonely boring non
boating nuffnuffs. I genuinely hope yours is fine & being a smaller HP there's lots of
reason the say it will be. But please keep that warranty in shape even
if it means feeding a dealer:-) K |
K.
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| well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |
Gene
Mar 27
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| Bull. Google is your friend. Try it. |
Mar 26
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| >> |
JIMinFL
Mar 27
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| --
Reggie "That's my story and I am sticking to it." |
Reggie
Mar 27
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| No. |
Shortwave
Mar 26
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| Depends to a great deal on whether your judgement of the elapsed time is
completely accurate. |
Mys
Mar 26
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| I had just been idling away from a fishing spot and my fishfinder
shallow warning went off. No sooner did it beep and I could feel the
prop hitting something. I had tilted motor up to inspect and forgot
to put it back down. Bent up my prop pretty good, must have been a
rock or a stump. Only the 3rd time out with new motor. Bummer. I
took the prop off and straigtened it as best I could, guess I should
go buy a new one and keep this one as a spare for an emergency. |
Charlie
Mar 26
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| Yes, that qualifies as a bummer. After an incident such as that, especially with
prop damage, I would also be concerned about seal damage and water getting into
the lower end. I would highly reccomend that you drain the gearcase and check
for evidence of water intrusion. If there isn;t any, just refill it and thank
your lucky stars. If there is water in the gear oil, get thee to your dealer. I agree that you should sideline that damaged prop and get a new one. |
Mys
Mar 26
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| Contrary to the opinions you are getting here, your new E-tec 90 is now |
RCE
Mar 26
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| If there arent any big chunks missing, I would take the prop to a
computerized prop shop for repair, especially if it's stainless steel. They
can true, balance, and polish them for about $75. I wouldn't run it on the
engine, even as a spare, until it's repaired. Off-balance props can cause
engine or drive problems. |
Stanley
Mar 26
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| Great suggestion. I have taken several props to be rebuilt. They come back
like new. |
Mar 26
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| It is an aluminum prop. I will just get a new one. I don't have a service manual yet and am afraid to drain the lower
gear oil, inspect it, and properly fill it. Not sure if I need to go
to the dealer to have them look at the motor in case there is damage?
The boat was moving slow and it felt like the prop caught the top of
something. |
Charlie
Mar 26
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| Thanks for that kind introduction Richard & welcome to a boating thread
how's it feel?? Do you need to post an OT movie??? how about a "how do I
work a power point" thread??? Charlie the impeller is probably fine but you do have an issue with the
impact, bent prop & definitely don't just drain & replace the gearcase
oil yourself!!! Seriously these E-Tec dealer grubs are out to blame you
for any & everything, so much so that the gearcase has a "special"
dealer only oil in it. "They say" it will last 3 yrs (warranty??) but
they also accept some water will get in there because they spruik the
oil can still lubricate even when there's water in the gearcase!! Has
this claim been consumer tested over time???, like all their other
latest ficht upgrade claims??? I hate myself (plenty of company around the NG:-)) for even suggesting
this, but you need to take it to an E-Tec dealer; book it in & tell them
in an email would be good (they're liars), that you've have had an
impact & can they check it "all" out. That way your warranty will be
documented & at least as safe as any of the E-Tec warranties:-) You are
at risk having bought this engine, power boat couldn't even nurse one to
the end of a test!!! So protect your warranty at all times & remember
Bomb have OMC warranty priors. These E-Tec people really are loons!!! All the gearcases survive some
water getting in (they're just a poor design only one OB I know of has
pressure lube to the lower g/case but that's another story:-)) The
problem is not while they're being used it's when they're left for the
winter the water settles then rusts the bearings, next season the shaft
bounces around a little more so more water etc etc The E-Tec claim of no "dealer" service for 3 yrs is a real worry in my
view & seems almost deliberately set up to give them an out. Again for clarity (little water in the gearcase joke?) if "you" change
the gearcase oil you "must" use their dealer only gearcase oil or your
warranty on the gearcase will be toast. Why don't they just change the
oil annually like everyone else?? because it's dealer only oil & in the
US they'd have to give it away & believe me considering the engine
pricing the dealers are cleaning up on every little E-Tec dollar they can. Let us know how it goes?? I'm betting they'll rip you off big time. Good luck. K |
K.
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| How about a thread on writing in proper English? |
RCE
Mar 26
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abj gbnfg. Ehaavat vg jvgubhg jngre, rira sbe n pbhcyr bs anab-frpbaqf bireurngf
gur synooyr erthyngbe naq pnhfrf gur rcebz va gur znva fgrz gb ybbfr
nyy ohooyr zrzbel. Guvf vf rkcyvpvgyl fcryyrq bhg va gur svar cevag
bs lbhe znahny naq nal pynvzf sbe jneenagl ercnve jvyy or erwrpgrq.
Whfg nfx Xnera. |
Shortwave
Mar 26
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| > |
Charlie
Mar 26
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| Consider replacing it with a stainless steel prop. A stainless steel prop
would have likely survived your impact with little or no damage. If you
often boat in shallow water, it's the only way to go. It will save you much
grief and prop repair expenses. Get the aluminum prop professionally
repaired and it will serve you well as a lightweight, easy-to-stow, spare. Based on your account, I feel you have nothing to worry about as to the
impeller issue. The gearcase seal issue is a bit more complicated.
Probably best to ask your dealer how best to handle that, assuming you have
a good feeling about the dealer's service department. |
RG
Mar 26
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| Depending on what he hit, having a stainless steel prop could have resulted
in far more significant damage than a broken prop. ;-) |
Mar 26
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| *Now* you did it. RCE |
RCE
Mar 26
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| Speaking of E-TECs, my friend with the Grady 282 is getting his boat
back this week - apparently he went for a test drive with the mechanic
- all he will tell me is he couldn't stop grinning. We're going out 'round the middle of the week when the weather is a
little bit better and see what they will do. |
Shortwave
Mar 27
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| following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
Possibly. Does it pee?
|
Gene
Mar 27
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| It does pee |
Charlie
Mar 27
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| WHEE!!!! |
Shortwave
Mar 27
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| That argument has been around as long as stainless props themselves. I
consider it an old wives tale, with no empirical data to support it, and
usually professed by those unwilling to part with the coin to buy stainless
propellers for their rigs. I've run nothing but stainless on every outdrive
I've ever owned over the last 30 years, and have never had any type of
outdrive damage traceable to running a high quality stainless propeller. I
wouldn't waste my breath trying to change the minds of those who consider
stainless props evil, but for me, I'll never run anything but stainless, for
a number of important reasons. |
RG
Mar 26
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| Does it lift its leg? (power trim/tilt joke) |
RG
Mar 26
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| What's that got to do with anything? |
Shortwave
Mar 27
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| Not a GD thing, but when I'm on a rant, sometimes I screw up and let facts
get in the way of an otherwise passionate tirade. |
RG
Mar 26
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