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RPM & WOT question

I just re-proped my boat -- my range is supposed to be 4200-4600

is this under "best case" conditions? (flat water, no wind, light load, trim optimised, etc)

Or "no mater what, when you're "WOT" your engine should be between 4200-4600?

Thanks Davie

Dave
Jun 15
2006
If it were me I would drop to a 19 or 20. The prop you have would be good if you always went out by yourself and cruised, but I would want something must closer to the top of the range under those conditions so that when you have a couple people or want to get that skier ot tuber up you can do it. If your current 21 is an aluminum, a stainless 21 might be the ticket. Just an opinion, not an expert.

Dave Hall

On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:09:05 -0700, Josh Assing <XjoshX@jAssing.com> wrote:

Dave
Jun 16
They actually do sell the props.. on that site, but their web designer is a real dowf. You have to really dig for the fact that they are still available... Gene
Jun 16
Thanks -- I can't afford a SS right now - but I do have a 19" for skiers, it takes almost no time to swap props.

On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:34:05 -0400, Dave Hall <dhall987@cs.com> wrote:

Josh
Jun 16
This alternating prop, so to speak, idea is intriguing. I've been wondering how to deal with the variability of having me and 4 12-year old girls on the boat or two families with large adults. If the prop change for my boat is a minute job once I decide which prop to carry as my alternate ... Bryan
Jun 17
Check your owner's manual. It should tell you the rpm that delivers maximum horsepower. Try to match the prop with the motor so that WOT is the rpm for max hp.

But if you don't exactly hit the number I described above, the 4200-4600 range is acceptable.

"Dave Jones" <nospam@spam.com> wrote in message

NOYB
Jun 17
It should be optimized for your normal loading and usage and depends a lot on the size of your boat. That RPM range indicates a likely I/O setup and I assume it's a single engine. You may find out, as I did years ago, that you will have two props ... one for normal use with 2 or 3 people aboard and a second, lower pitched prop for when the whole gang shows up for a boat ride.

RCE

www.eisboch.com

RCE
Jun 15
That's why it's a range..... 4600 lean and mean 4200 with the whole fam damily.

But assume 4600 is max at leanest config, so if you prop it lighter, watch the tach and don't exceed.

-W

Clams
Jun 15
Someone should invent an easily adjustable, variable-pitch prop. Maybe I will. I just hate pulling the prop off my OMC.

Jeff

Dave Jones wrote:

Chehalis
Jun 15
I think one of the outboard manufacturers (Mercury?) tried to introduce an "automatic" variable pitch prop many years ago that had two pitch positions. It was costly, problem prone and it's performance wasn't any better than a properly sized fixed pitch prop. The prop was a flop.

RCE

www.eisboch.com

RCE
Jun 15
Excellent advice. For my Evinrude 115(16' Glastron), I have a SS 19" prop that is good for overall use, a SS 17" prop for heavy loads w/ watersports & gear for a day away from the dock, and a large surface area AL 15" prop for power on demand (we sometimes pull 5 skiers with this prop) but even with 5 skiers in tow, the engine will over-rev at full throttle once they are up.

Our old inboard is getting tired, I have 2 14", a 15", a 10" & a 9" NiBrAl (or brass) props for it, it likes the 14" cupped Michigan the best at 4600-4800 rpm(engine is rated 220hp at 4400) . It over revs with the 14" Stannus, to almost 5000 rpm, this we do only for short bursts with a good load in the boat.

I/O & inboard engines(& most outboards - some Mercs are VERY sensitive to this) really should not be run for any duration over recommended WOT max.

Target the middle of the range with your usual load.

Rob

trainfan1
Jun 15
I just put a 21" pitch on my boat (same range) and WHAT A DIFFERENCE! 10mph Josh
Jun 15
So my new 21" pitch -- me alone, WOT , semi-flat water trimed right, 4300 RPM -- the prop is no good? Too much strain on the engine?

(I may have 14.5x21" prop for sale soon)

Josh
Jun 15
Are you telling us that you actually changed props each time your guest list changed? Bryan
Jun 16
Looks good from here...

Rob

trainfan1
Jun 15
No. Not every time. Most of the time there was only one or two people on the boat and I had a 14 pitch prop. Once in a while, if I knew we were going to have four or five people on the boat for an outing, I'd change it to a 12 pitch. The 12 was originally an 11 that I had re-pitched after experimenting. This boat was an older (1982) Century 7000 Express that was heavy and underpowered with the 260 hp GM 350 engine. It was stern heavy and struggled to get up on plane with more than 3 people on board.

Changing the prop was a 5 minute job, even when the boat was in the slip.

RCE

www.eisboch.com

RCE
Jun 16
You will know after you try it with a few people on board. If you struggle to get on plane or can't get the RPM's up over about 4000, then you are over-proped for that load.

RCE

www.eisboch.com

RCE
Jun 16
I think you may remember these guys...... and they are still around.....

http://www.land-and-sea.com/marine/torque-shift/torque-shift.htm

Gene
Jun 16
That's likely what I remember - the tests with the Merc outboard. Time frame is about right too - the articles date back to 1990.

It's interesting that although they sell parts for the prop on the site, but I didn't see any offerings of the prop itself.

RCE

www.eisboch.com

RCE
Jun 16
   

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