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Rednecks, airboats and spring water

Yesterday, I took my two younger kids to the headwater spring of the Wacissa River in Jefferson county, FL (about 20 miles east of Tallahassee) to go canoeing and fishing. Years ago when I went there as a kid a lot, it was beautiful with crystal clear cold spring water, ideal for a hot summer afternoon.

We got there and it was packed with seemingly every redneck within 50 miles. Fortunately, most of em were well behaved and mostly sober. What struck me was that most of the girls were overweight and all of them except one good looking redhead had "Tramp Stamp" tattoos on their lower backs. Do white trash rednecks really think tattoos look good? I really can't be too hard on em cuz I am probably related to half of em in a complicated way (being a local myself). My kids were apalled and amazed at such redneckism, I think they lead a much more sheltered life than I did since they go to upper income schools whereas I went to the worst local schools.

What did piss me off was the airboats, there were about 8 of them. The Wacissa River is very shallow in places and is covered with hydrilla (invasive non-native plant) and some floating native plants so is not easily navigable by most boats. I can understand why some people have them for getting to fishing holes in shallow water but I wish they'd avoid being around other people cuz they are so loud they hurt your ears at 300'. These guys were not doing any fishing but were only running up and down the river making noise and spoiling it for everyone else. Every one of these airboats was piloted by a guy with a huge beer gut, control stick in one hand and beer can in the other.

In spite of the airboats, the kids had a good time. My 15 yr old son tried to impress his gf but he has no skill in canoeing. My 10 yr old daughter loved the whole thing. We all watched a smallish gator stalking a wading bird (it got away). I am trying to get my kids familiar with the canoe so they will do more outdoors stuff instead of wimpy computer games but watching my son trying to tie a knot makes me want to beat my head on a tree. I thought he would just learn these things like I did without being taught but I s'pose its a different world.

dbohara
Jun 26
2006
Students in San Francisco attend public schools based on a lottery. So a kid living next to a great school can end up going to a crappy school in some other neighborhood. This is to level the playing field. Ultimately, families who can afford to send their kids to private schools do so if they didn't win the public school lottery. I don't know how widespread this practice is throughout the state or nationwide. In my town north of San Francisco we bought our house based on the elementary and middle schools our kids would attend; our school district places students based on address, not lottery. Bryan
Jun 28
You know, that's a great question. My daughter has been asking me to describe a redneck. It's a tough question to answer; at least in a multiculturally sensitive politically correct manner. Bryan
Jun 28
Not terribly surprising that SF would use that system. It has to be the most PC city in the US.

In our area school enrichment groups have sprung up to provide additional funds or other enriching items to support the local schools. In higher income areas this works very well.

I don't understand why we think that throwing more money at schools equals better education. Better teachers (with teacher testin) and involved parents equals better education. Here, we seem to have a fixation on facilities and spend enormous sums on new schools. The buildings are beautiful brick structures with incredible landscaping and cost an arm and a leg. Of course the roofs leak at the approach of the first tropical system. Seems to me we could provide an equal educational opportunity in a well insulated metal structure for about 35% of the cost??

Butch
Jun 28
Jeez, you're an idiot. Been down to the mud bog races yet this year? basskisser
Jun 27
Please, do tell the group NOYB, how do you know WHAT I'm comparing? I take it your head is stuck so far in the sand that you haven't heard of the movement to buy beautiful but neglected homes in old neighborhoods and fixing them up? There are several old 'hoods in Atlanta that have undergone transformation and are fetching astronomical prices, unlike the Naples market which is getting stagnant. How about those trailer parks out by the mud bogs? There values going up? basskisser
Jun 27
Well, it is a sort of self sorting process. The quality of a school drives the prices of nearby homes here and that drives the quality of the schools. There is actually an inverse corellation between funding levels at a school and the standardized test scores. In other words, poor schools have substantially more spent per student. It is generally the income level that determines parental involvement which determines student achievement. The local school board tries to mix things up by making the worst high school into a mixed normal high school and a special advanced school with limitesd success. They also have tried the 'magnet school' concept with little success. My wife has been a teacher in 5 different states and many different schools so she has a very good perspective on this issue.

When I was a kid here, my family home was just above "double wide" level (and there were 9 kids) and most of my classmates were the poorest rednecks and the poorest blacks, a great combination. My high school was basically a babysitting service for poor kids until they went into the army,the guidance department had no notion of college. Today, we live on the affluent side of town, are solidly middle class and my kids attend one of the top 100 public high schools in the country where 90% of the kids go to college. My kids classmates normally own their own cars that are always nicer than what I drive. Exposure to the extreme redneck element was a culture shock to my sheltered kids but part of my past.

dbohara
Jun 27
That is not true around here (SW Florida) Lee County just got out from under the 60s "deseg" orders but they still go out of their way to be sure we are "balanced" ethnically. Where you live may not have anything to do with what school your kids go to. Screw the price of oil, ozone or CO2, they get bused.

.... but it does make a better football program ;-)

gfretwell
Jun 27
I live in Lee County and did not know that (no school age kids).

What ethnicity is "red neck" and how do they identify them? Are they required to carry cards or other ID?

Wayne.B
Jun 27
If you have lived here long you should have remembered all the deseg problems (Willie Green and the NAACP) It certainly affects your property taxes, even if you don't have kids. We pay about $17,000 per kid enrolled, in taxes. The school board budget is ONE POINT THREE BILLION bucks a year. Sounds like a lot of money for the miserable results we get. It would be a lot cheaperr to send them to private school. Caterbury (our best secular private school) is less than $17,000 a year. gfretwell
Jun 27
"Tramp Stamp" tattoo?

LOL! I never heard those ugly "butt billboards" called that before.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

tschnautz
Jun 26
And Ass Antlers. Bryan
Jun 27
And "Ass Antlers. "

Now that's a new one on me too!

tschnautz
Jun 27
Do they really sort who goes to what public school in your area by income?? basskisser
Jun 27
Many school attendance zones are based upon proximity to the school. Newer developed areas often have newer schools and a certain income level is required to afford to live in those areas. Older, less popular areas often require less income for housing, eh?

Perhaps this will result in another Supreme Court decision and new busing requirements to level the playing field? After all, we can't have economic segregation, can we?

Butch
Jun 27
A lot of older home areas here in these parts are selling for higher prices than new. basskisser
Jun 27
Yes, but you're comparing older double-wides to the newer single-wides. NOYB
Jun 27
You'll be pleased to know that when I lived in Florida, I filed a formal complaint about the noise these damned airboats make and worked on a petititon that for a while at least got their use restricted on the ICW where we were.

The airboat idiots would go charging up the creeks of the ICW at high speeds and high noise levels, and then bounce over the marsh to the next creek, destroying habitat in their path. I was always hoping to see one snagged and stopped short by a stump so that the driver would go flying but, alas, it never happened while I was fishing.

Harry
Jun 26
   

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