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Great moorage available, only $15,000 a foot
A far cry from the average "boat ramp" :-)Pier 17 Marina and Yacht Club, LLC:
A New Megayacht Facility is Underway in Fort Lauderdale Pier 17 Marina and Yacht Club, LLC, the newest and largest megayacht
dockominium and yacht club in South Florida, has initiated work in Fort
Lauderdale. Located on the South Fork of the New River, Pier 17 offers
26 fee simple deeded slips for yachts 80' to 155' in length in a luxury
yacht club environment. Built to Broward County hurricane standards,
this modern facility with covered slips offers a location in close
proximity to repair facilities, downtown Fort Lauderdale, and the Fort
Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport. "Dock space is a scarce resource and highly desired," says Earl Weber,
developer of Pier 17. "This is one of the best locations in Fort
Lauderdale, the yachting capital of the world - not just for
convenience but also for security during hurricane season." Located on
5.5 acres at the site of the former Summerfield Boatyard, Pier 17 is
just east of 1-95 in Fort Lauderdale on the New River. The Pier 17 project attracted Mr. Weber because of his passion for
boating and the very strong demand for megayacht slips in Fort
Lauderdale. "When this deal was presented to me I jumped at the
opportunity. As a yacht owner myself I was spending $4,000.00 per
month renting a slip just off the Intracoastal Waterway. The slips at
Pier 17 are deeded, fee simple, under cover, and safely up the New
River. I instantly realized the value for myself and other yacht owners
in the same position throughout South Florida. I now own a secure slip
that is an appreciating asset in the center of Ft. Lauderdale. This
deal was a no brainer." In order to begin construction later this summer, boats are being
cleared from the property. BK Construction of Deerfield Beach, Florida
is handling the construction. BK Marine Construction is well-known for
their work on many marina projects including Lauderdale Marina, The
Cove, Pier 66, and Bahia Mar in Fort Lauderdale. Affinity Architects,
specialists in the design of waterfront properties and resorts, is
providing a design with a luxury yacht club ambiance. Affinity
Architects has earned over 150 national and regional design awards for
their outstanding work. The state-of-the-art facility for slips up to 155' in length and 40'
beam will include a captain and crew lounge, swimming pool, and fitness
center with the latest technology and communication. Each covered slip
also comes with loft storage area and a two-car garage. Prices start at
$15,000 per linear foot and twelve slips are on reservation. It is
expected that the majority of slips will be purchased by yacht owners
and yacht builders looking to guarantee a spot for clients to dock in
the heart of Fort Lauderdale. "Pier 17 slips have the added bonus of the condo association performing
all property maintenance and upkeep of the yacht club. We will also
provide a rental program for owners when their slip is not occupied,"
continues Mr. Weber. "We have designed and will build the most advanced
facility in South Florida, providing a unique asset for our buyers." Earl Weber has been developing properties since the early 1980s
including projects in Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama in addition
to Florida. He is also developing the Twin Tower Water Club Towers in
Coral Ridge, a development which includes boat slips. For more information contact:
Pier 17 Sales Department
954.934.6403
info@pier17.net www.pier17.net |
Chuck
Jul 12 2006
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| Let me put it this way: She rides horses much better than she handles
boats.
She wants to learn .... I just can't be the one to teach her. We tried
that once when we were first married and living in Italy. We had a little
Fiat Spider with a manual transmission. She had never driven a manual
before. The experience tested our new marriage and she ended up learning
from one of her girlfriends while I was out on a cruise (Navy). The boat is a single screw making it more of a challenge, although trawler
types aren't as bad as others because of the substantial keel. It also has a
stern thruster (hydraulic, powered by the engine) that helps when docking. As you know, boat handling is an endless learning curve and it takes many
hours of practical experience to learn the boat under different sets of
circumstances. With her busy lifestyle, I don't think she will become truly
proficient anytime soon and she realizes that. Eisboch |
Eisboch
Jul 13
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| So until she hires a professional instructor/captain to teach her (a wise
move) this is her second home. Nothing wrong with that. ;-) |
Jul 13
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| Yes, it's the same company. Dial the number and ask for Dave Lehman.
For the price of a recreational frdige you can own something that's
commercial duty- or, you can even build a coldlocker with a holding
plate. |
Chuck
Jul 14
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| Unfortunately, I think it will get worse before it gets better. If it
gets better at all. It hardly matters whether the price of gas and diesel is strictly
related to shrinking supply and accelerating demand (as the oil
companies are claiming while they post record smashing profits quarter
after quarter), or whether the oil companies are charging as much as
they are "just because they can", there's not really any incentive for
the oil companies to sell it to anybody for less. If I'm one of two or
three people in the widget business and we notice that the line to buy
widgets everyday is just as long when they are priced at $5 a widget as
it is when the price is $2 a widget, all three of us are going to price
the widgets at $5 apiece and turn a deaf ear to the gripes of our
customers. After all, they don't have anyplace else to go for widgets. It also doesn't matter whether the price of fuel is jacked up
artificially by taxes (as it has been in Europe for a very long time)
or fundamentally by rapacious pricing at the well head, the refinery,
and the pump. A sustained run of high fuel prices would make a lot of
our boating choices (like your Navigator, for example) obsolete. You
just don't find a mass market for very large, high speed boats in
societies (Europe, for example) where fuel has sold for north of $5 a
gallon for a long time. High fuel prices will change boating to where
there is a much stronger emphasis on trawlers and even (omigod) ((just
kidding)) sailboats. Yes, the guys with mega-billions still run 150
-200 footers all over the Med- but working people, professionals, and
even successful small business owners don't own powerboats that consume
huge amounts of fuel anywhere nearly as commonly as we have in the US. Everybody will be going a lot slower. It's that speed that *really*
costs you. Make that run from Kingman to Scituate at a trawler speed
and your fuel consumption would be substantially less. If it turns out that exorbitant fuel prices are here to stay, it will
shake up the powerboat industry in a mahor way. The fuel prices are
also having an effect on the values of brokerage boats. One of the most well established brokers in Seattle told me this week
that his firm will no longer list gasoline powered boats. Business has
been pretty good at his brokerage this year, with the sole exception of
gasoline powered boats. While his brokerage isn't dealing in trailer
boats and the same phenomenon may not be prevalent in the smaller
craft, he reports that nearly every offer they have written for a
gasoline powered boat so far this year has been at a "ridiculously low"
price. He reports that he's seeing a lot of "bottom feeders" in the
market- guys who are using the high fuel prices and slack demand for
boats that burn a lot of it to make crazy offers. Some of them are
looking the brokers right in the eye and making offers adjusted from
fair market value by an amount sufficient to repower with diesel. Wow.
(He also reports that the sellers aren't accepting most of these
predatory offers. A lot are still reciting that old saw that seemed
more appropriate when fuel was a couple of bucks a gallon, "If you have
to think about the price of fuel, you can't afford to buy a boat in the
first place"... so it seems that both the sellers holding out for the
kind of money the boat was worth when it cost half as much to run a
couple of years ago and the buyers trying to steal gas boats are
probably *both* gambling that the price of gasoline will be coming back
down ). There are a lot of diesel boats that burn 40 gph or more as well.
Getting a 40,000 pound vessel up on step and skimming along at 25-30
knots is simply going to suck down a lot of fuel, whether it's gas or
diesel. On my run back down from Bellingham a couple of weeks ago, I noticed a
very unusual
thing. There was a Carver aft cabin, something around 36 or 38 feet,
creeping along at a speed about a knot faster than my trawler. The boat
looked ungainly and unnatural, frankly, and was running a bit "bow
down". I paid carfeul attention to this craft because it was slowly
overtaking me, at an intersecting angle, from the port side. I was
clearly the stand on vessel, so I maintained course and speed to allow
this overtaking vessel to port to plan its required deviation of course
or speed in order to make a safe crossing. The Skipper aboard the
Carver must have been on autopilot. When I judged that we were within
about 90 seconds of colliding if we both continued chugging along
without deviation, I decided to hail the overtaking vessel on the VHF
and ask about his intentions. We were close enough that the skipper of
the other vessel could see through my pilothouse door, and probably
noticed me reaching for the VHF microphone with a concerned expression. Before I could hail the Carver, the skipper flipped the back of his
wrist my way with apparent disgust, shook his head, changed course to
port, and throttled up from about 9 knots to probably 20. He put that
Carver up on plane, ran about 1/8 of a mile to get ahead of me, and
dropped right back down to 9 knots. My two thoughts at the time were,
"Aha! High fuel prices are changing this guy's boating style." as well
as "It looks like he isn't having a whole lot of fun, and that's too
bad." I have to wonder if he stretched his budget to the breaking
point, or beyond, just to make the monthly payments on that boat? If he
did (as thousands have done) the difference to him between a $200 fuel
bill for a weekend and a $450-$500 fuel bill for the same weekend could
be very real indeed- it could be that back breaking straw now
threatening to ruin his entire camel. |
Chuck
Jul 14
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| I am collecting stale McDonald's french fries. Eisboch |
Eisboch
Jul 14
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| BTW, I respectfully disagree that the oil companies are raping us blind.
If they are, it's a new philosophy on their part.
Take a look at the historical price graph I posted a few days ago. (
http://www.eisboch.com/gasprice )
Until very recently, the price of gas had actually dropped over the years,
when adjusted for inflation. There's one major reason that oil and other industrial products like
stainless steel and concrete has gone up so much in the past couple of
years. That reason is ..... China. Eisboch |
Eisboch
Jul 14
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| >artificially by taxes (as it has been in Europe for a very long time) I've been of the opinion for a long time that we missed a great
opportunity by not taking the same approach back in the 70s and 80s.
If the extra tax revenue had been plowed back into research and
development of alternative fuels, and high efficiency vehicles, this
current mess would probably never have happened, along with some of
the related policy fiascos in the middle east. If energy supplies are being depleted, and clearly they are, we should
be glad for higher prices. Ultimately that will lead to new sources
and better technology, not to mention extending the day of reckoning
when things REALLY get tight. |
Wayne.B
Jul 14
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| I'm surprised that the concept is so hard for so many to grasp.
-- ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** John |
JohnH
Jul 14
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| Not familiar with NovaKool. Our fridges are "built ins" with holding
plates and external compressor/condensor. I like the holding plate
concept because it limits our generator time to only a few hours per
day when we're anchored out. |
Wayne.B
Jul 13
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| I'd rate NovaKool just a wee bit higher than Norcold, but for about the
same money you can build a very nice cold locker with a stainless
interior. Moving the compressor to a remote location will also increase
the available volume. We replaced our Norcold (""Twas neither freezing
nor cold") a few years ago with a unit built by SeaFreeze up in
Bellingham WA. |
Chuck
Jul 13
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| Has anybody else with a modest 30' express cruiser found that we are
losing our slips to make room for monster mega yachts?
Same thing is happening in California:
http://www.dailyboater.com/2006_07_10_dailyboater_archive.html |
canepari
Jul 13
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| Is that the same company that builds fish freezers and cold storage
enclosures for commercial fishing boats?
I did a search but can't find anything resembling a recreational boat
refrigerator.
The remote compressor sounds like a good idea though. According to the pictures, the NovaKool (model 9000) has no external
condensing coils which adds to the internal volume. I've got a bit of a
problem because the refrigerator area is built into a custom built,
birds-eye maple enclosure. I am trying to avoid major re-work because I'd
never be able to match the wood. Sounds like you are not overly impressed with NovaKool. Like I mentioned,
until recently I had never heard of them. Eisboch |
Eisboch
Jul 13
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| Can you find a home or dorm. style fridge that will closely match your
opening. You could trim out your woodwork without cutting it away or
damaging it. It could run off an inverter at sea, (rare occasion nowadays.
;-) snerk, and shore power when docked. Remote mounted compressor/evaporator
options might add unnecessary complications.
Jim
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> "Chuck Gould" <chuckgould.chuck@gmail.com> wrote in message |
Jim
Jul 13
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| That was my first thought Jim. I really don't need the ability to run it on
DC (never have) since I always run the genset while underway. The problem
was finding an apartment size refridge that would fit. If you remember, (I
realize the memory banks are getting foggy) the refrig in the Navigator is
located just behind the ladder that goes from the pilot house up to the
upper station and it's all enclosed with the birds-eye maple woodwork. The
doors for the Norcold were removed from the refrigerator and mounted on 3/4
inch birds-eye doors made by Navigator. I can forgo the maple doors, but I
simply can't find a house or apartment sized refrig that will fit in the
existing cutout. They are either too tall or are too small to be worthwhile. The Tundra T-80 is very close to the same size and the NovaKool is exactly
the same cutout size. I was trying to save a few bucks, but looks like I
have no choice. It *is* a boat, afterall. Eisboch |
Eisboch
Jul 13
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| I was figuring something out the other day on the boat. Right now, if I
took the Navigator for a trip from Kingman up to Scituate for a weekend and
then returned, it would use just under $800 worth of fuel, assuming
$4.50/gallon.
Hardly worth untying the dock lines. The same little trip back when I first bought the boat would have been about
$240 in fuel cost. Eisboch |
Eisboch
Jul 13
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| Sounds like you need something like a GB36. Maybe Mrs E will let you
take it out some time. :-) |
Wayne.B
Jul 13
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| It's looking better and better all the time. Eisboch |
Eisboch
Jul 13
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| Hoping that she will not read this post....how do you rate her
ability to handle her boat? I assume it is twin screw making maneuvering a
bit easy. |
Jul 13
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| And Ft Lauderdale is not your "average" boating town. They will
probably sell out quickly I suspect, 80 footers are dime a dozen over
there. |
Wayne.B
Jul 13
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| Ain't that the truth. My Navigator could be used as a dingy for some of the
private boats in that area. Speaking of boats, I am in the process of replacing the Norcold refrigerator
in mine. The compressor died last weekend and I'd rather replace the whole
unit since I've never been too impressed with Norcold to begin with.
I searched around for a replacement that would fit and found a Tundra T-80
that would fit with minor trimming to the existing cutout. But, after
talking to a local distributor, he recommended a NovaKool unit that is
somewhat unique. It has a cutout requirement that is exactly the same as the
original Norcold, but has 9.1 cubic feet internal capacity versus the
Norcold's 6.6 cubic feet. The freezer section is on the bottom, rather than
the top. Since the distributor is local to my boat, I am going to visit him and check
it out. I never heard of NovaKool, but he highly recommends them. Eisboch |
Eisboch
Jul 13
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