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Mercruiser 165hp Alpha One Outdrive 19' 1975 formula thunderbird

I have the engine running pretty good as of today. It is running very rich. Keep me in mind if anyone finds a 2bbl carb for the chevy gm250 motor (1975).

My next question is the up and down relay are not responding after the storm (along with the starter relay). The outdrive is up. The relay clicks only when the buttons are pushed to raise the unit. The buttons for lowering do nothing. No click or anything. My wires look fine and they are snug an all the connections. The mercruiser manual I have shows two 20 amp glass fuses and one larger relay type fuse. I find none of these in the harness by the engine. The one under the dash board at the button controls is also not present.

How can i get the outdrive down to take the boat out of the water ? It is about a 15 minute ride to the boat ramp. The boat is easier to control with the engine down.

Thanks in advance again.

Sonofadocker.

sonofadocker
Sep 10
2006
Just to confirm, there is one or two lines from your tilt/trim pump that go under the engine and out the lower area of the outdrive. You disconnected these from the tilt/trim pump and the outdrive is still stuck up? Bummer.

Yes, the drive position is controlled by those two pistons, one on each side of the drive. You can disconnect them at the end and the outdrive will lower. You just have to disconnect the outside end of the cylinder, above the prop. You can try one at a time and see if you can get the cylinder to close by pushing on it. Normally if the line is disconnected from the tilt/trim pump you can close the cylinder by hand. The fluid will squirt out the disconnected line.

The only explanation I have for what you are seeing is that one or the other or both of those cylinders is frozen.

All this worked ok before the storm? When was the last time you used this boat?

sonofadocker wrote:

jamesgangnc
Sep 12
Once upon a time I had issues with the trim, sorry memory is foggy but there are a couple of solenoids on the pump unit. You can jump them to figure out which one is up and which one is down. Once figure out where your problem is, TAP not beat, the snot out of it with a hammer, you may loosen up the solenoid. gorf
Sep 11
Make sure your choke is opening all the way up. That is one common cause for rich running. Another cause is a stuck float. Some of those carbs you can just take the top off without removing the carb. You might have a piece of crud stuck in the float valve. Be careful of you take the carb apart, you don't want to drop any little parts down the intake.

I believe those smaller fuses are in holders around the tilt/trim pump. You can jump one of those relays to see if the pump motor is working. Basically they just activate the pump motor. It draws too much current for the switch on the shifter to power directly. You can disconnect the hydralic lines and then move the outdrive by hand but it makes a huge mess because hydralic fluid will come out the lines. And the outdrive is heavy. Once you do this you will have to tie it up to get it out of the water.

You should not run the engine much above an idle with the drive tilted up. The u-joints are not designed to take that much torque. They will prematurely fail.

That's along haul to the ramp to do at idle. But if the drive is tilted up you should just idle.

sonofadocker wrote:

jamesgangnc
Sep 11
   

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