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Arctic Ice Melting
The whole article is an eye opener, but the last few paragraphs should
really make some people open their brains.Arctic ice: it's melting
Scientists say wintertime loss of polar ice is growing along with a
continuing summertime pattern and is strong evidence of global warming
Jane Kay, Chronicle Environment Writer Thursday, September 14, 2006 Printable Version
Email This Article The vast expanses of ice floating in the Arctic Sea are melting in
winter as well as in the summer, likely because of global warming, NASA
scientists said Thursday. "This is the strongest evidence yet of global warming in the Arctic,''
said Josefino Comiso, a research scientist at NASA's Goddard Space
Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md. And if the ice continued to melt at the current rate, Comiso said, it
could have profound effects on all life in the Arctic and other
consequences around the world. Particularly hard hit would be the polar bears, which live on the ice,
he said. Sea ice also provides oxygen-rich cold water needed for the
growth of phytoplankton. A decline in the number of the tiny plants
could have a cascading effect on the food supply of fish and
crustaceans, seals and the other marine mammals. The size of this summer's Arctic ice won't be known for a few weeks
because it usually reaches its smallest size the third week of
September. Last year, scientists found that polar ice an area twice the
size of Texas has melted since NASA started compiling satellite data 27
years ago. Scientists said there could be no ice left in the Arctic in
the summer by the end of the century. Until 2005, the wintertime sea ice -- which is thick and multilayered |
basskisser
Sep 14 2006
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| What? |
Dan
Sep 16
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| Recently it was reported that the Earth's temperature is as hot today as
it was 2000 years ago,
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/22/D8IDK16G0.html. Why was it as hot as today 2000 years ago? What caused the cooling
during the intervening 2000 years? Or, has the temperature been
fluctuating between hotter and colder for those 2000 years? Does sunspot
activity have any effect on the earths temperature? One data point, CO2 levels, does not make a trend. Besides do you
remember the effects of the erruption of the Mt Pinatubo volcano?
http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa030901a.htm. Interesting how forces greater than us have a more immediate effect on
our planet. |
Bert
Sep 15
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| Boy, you righties sure like to blind yourselves, don't you? No one,
particularly not me, has stated that sun spots, cyclical heating
cooling, etc doesn't exist. The facts show, however, that there is a
direct correlation between amounts of CO2 in the atmosphere and global
temperature. Also, there is hard data that shows that the CO2 levels
have been increasing at a rate higher than ever before. The earth can
handle certain levels of CO2 from occasional things like eruptions.
This has nothing to do with the millions of tons of green house gases
spewed in the air weekly. What data do you have that suggests that this
is not having an adverse affect on the planet? |
basskisser
Sep 16
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| I tried to have a civil discussion with you about the issue but, you
turned it political. |
Bert
Sep 16
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| In other words, you don't want to answer this question I posed to you: What data do you have that suggests that this is not having an adverse
affect on the planet? |
basskisser
Sep 16
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| I may not have been invited to this party, but I'm gonna blow my party
horn anyway.
Without greenhouse gases we would be very cold indeed with temperatures
similar to planets without atmospheres.
99.7% of our greenhouse gases are natural. We cannot control our
temperature by controlling only 0.3% of our atmo.
Wouldn't we be better off finding ways to predict and go with the flow of
temperature changing?
Gordon |
Gordon
Sep 16
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| That's absurd. Your first number 99.7% is not correct to begin with,
then you talk about .3% of the atmosphere, apples and oranges, so to
speak. What about methane, Nitrous Oxide, Flourocarbons, etc? |
basskisser
Sep 16
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| And when did it "suddenly" shift its axis? I wouldn't call thousands, or
millions, of years "suddenly". Compared to human lives that's almost an
eternity.
In a later post in this thread someone is talking about the magnetic poles
switching and how it will be something to see. This is another event that
will take thousands of years, and one generation, or ten, won't see a
significant change. Magnetic pole switching won't serve as an excuse when
you put your boat up on the rocks like that photo you posted. You need to look elsewhere for a disaster scenario; how about $10/gallon gas
or beer at $50 per six-pack? |
John
Sep 15
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| I am waithing for the magnetic poles to switch. That will be something
to see. |
Bert
Sep 14
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| The argument is not that global warming is happening. The alleged causes
of the warming are in question. |
Bert
Sep 14
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| They just did .... see?
ooopps, there they go again. Eisboch |
Eisboch
Sep 14
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| Makes sense to me, sea ice which is frozen salt water will melt during the |
Jeff
Sep 21
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| Now, that's funny!!! |
basskisser
Sep 15
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| Can't read well, huh? Or is it that you can't comprehend what you've
read? Go back, read again, take not of CO2 levels, then take a look at
what is causing CO2 levels to rise at an ever increasing rate. See any
correlation to levels rising and emissions????? |
basskisser
Sep 15
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| Interesting, but I also remember after the winters of 1978 and 1979
that the scientists of the day were saying that we were entering a new
ice age, again because of human intervention, pollution, etc. I don't trust scientists anymore than politicians. They all have
agendas and need money to further there jobs, research, etc., so to say
they are "unbiased" and "impartial" is dreaming. Is the ice melting? Looks that way. Is it the humans fault? Maybe. Am I going to lose any sleep over it? Definitely not. I live up north
and hate the cold. Global warming sounds like a great idea to me.
Florida is crowded and my house is nearly paid off. Bring the sunshine
and heat to me! basskisser wrote: |
Joey916
Sep 14
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| If that is all you know, then good luck. I take it you don't understand
the ramifications of even a couple of degrees of global warming, huh?
Perhaps that house that is nearly paid for will be under water. : V Effects of Global Warming Print this section ¦ Edit this section
Scientists use elaborate computer models of temperature, precipitation
patterns, and atmosphere circulation to study global warming. Based on
these models, scientists have made several predictions about how global
warming will affect weather, sea levels, coastlines, agriculture,
wildlife, and human health. A Weather Edit this section
Scientists predict that during global warming, the northern regions of
the Northern Hemisphere will heat up more than other areas of the
planet, northern and mountain glaciers will shrink, and less ice will
float on northern oceans. Regions that now experience light winter
snows may receive no snow at all. In temperate mountains, snowlines
will be higher and snowpacks will melt earlier. Growing seasons will be
longer in some areas. Winter and nighttime temperatures will tend to
rise more than summer and daytime ones. The warmed world will be generally more humid as a result of more water
evaporating from the oceans. Scientists are not sure whether a more
humid atmosphere will encourage or discourage further warming. On the
one hand, water vapor is a greenhouse gas, and its increased presence
should add to the insulating effect. On the other hand, more vapor in
the atmosphere will produce more clouds, which reflect sunlight back
into space, which should slow the warming process (see Water Cycle). Greater humidity will increase rainfall, on average, about 1 percent
for each Fahrenheit degree of warming. (Rainfall over the continents
has already increased by about 1 percent in the last 100 years.) Storms
are expected to be more frequent and more intense. However, water will
also evaporate more rapidly from soil, causing it to dry out faster
between rains. Some regions might actually become drier than before.
Winds will blow harder and perhaps in different patterns. Hurricanes,
which gain their force from the evaporation of water, are likely to be
more severe. Against the background of warming, some very cold periods
will still occur. Weather patterns are expected to be less predictable
and more extreme. ---
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As the atmosphere warms, the surface layer of the ocean warms as well,
expanding in volume and thus raising sea level. Warming will also melt
much glacier ice, especially around Greenland, further swelling the
sea. Sea levels worldwide rose 10 to 25 cm (4 to 10 in) during the 20th
century, and IPCC scientists predict a further rise of 9 to 88 cm (4 to
35 in) in the 21st century. Sea-level changes will complicate life in many coastal regions. A
100-cm (40-in) rise could submerge 6 percent of The Netherlands, 17.5
percent of Bangladesh, and most or all of many islands. Erosion of
cliffs, beaches, and dunes will increase. Storm surges, in which winds
locally pile up water and raise the sea, will become more frequent and
damaging. As the sea invades the mouths of rivers, flooding from runoff
will also increase upstream. Wealthier countries will spend huge
amounts of money to protect their shorelines, while poor countries may
simply evacuate low-lying coastal regions. Even a modest rise in sea level will greatly change coastal ecosystems.
A 50-cm (20-in) rise will submerge about half of the present coastal
wetlands of the United States. New marshes will form in many places,
but not where urban areas and developed landscapes block the way. This
sea-level rise will cover much of the Florida Everglades. C Agriculture Edit this section
A warmed globe will probably produce as much food as before, but not
necessarily in the same places. Southern Canada, for example, may
benefit from more rainfall and a longer growing season. At the same
time, the semiarid tropical farmlands in some parts of Africa may
become further impoverished. Desert farm regions that bring in
irrigation water from distant mountains may suffer if the winter
snowpack, which functions as a natural reservoir, melts before the peak
growing months. Crops and woodlands may also be afflicted by more
insects and plant diseases. D Animals and Plants Edit this section
Animals and plants will find it difficult to escape from or adjust to
the effects of warming because humans occupy so much land. Under global
warming, animals will tend to migrate toward the poles and up
mountainsides toward higher elevations, and plants will shift their
ranges, seeking new areas as old habitats grow too warm. In many
places, however, human development will prevent this shift. Species
that find cities or farmlands blocking their way north or south may die
out. Some types of forests, unable to propagate toward the poles fast
enough, may disappear. E Human Health Edit this section
In a warmer world, scientists predict that more people will get sick or
die from heat stress, due less to hotter days than to warmer nights
(giving the sufferers less relief). Diseases now found in the tropics,
transmitted by mosquitoes and other animal hosts, will widen their
range as these animal hosts move into regions formerly too cold for
them. Today 45 percent of the world's people live where they might
get bitten by a mosquito carrying the parasite that causes malaria;
that percentage may increase to 60 percent if temperatures rise. Other
tropical diseases may spread similarly, including dengue fever, yellow
fever, and encephalitis. Scientists also predict rising incidence of
allergies and respiratory diseases as warmer air grows more charged
with pollutants, mold spores, and pollens. |
basskisser
Sep 14
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| For every scientist screaming global warming is bad, you can find one
saying it's no big deal. http://www.junkscience.com/news/robinson.htm http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/global_warming_myths.htm http://www.ncpa.org/ba/ba230.html ....and there are many more. I'm going back to sleep. |
Joey916
Sep 14
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| Almost boating related. If the ice melts, it may change sea level. The planet has been in a constant state of change since it was formed.
Just wait until the next time the axis suddenly shifts- global warming
will seem pretty insignificant. |
Chuck
Sep 14
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| >will seem pretty insignificant. Which one? The Oogy Boogy one where all humans will enter the Fourth
Dimension or the one where the Magnetic Poles shift for a few years
until they stabilize with little or no consequences other than those
annoying Blackberrys won't work for a while? I like the Oogy Boogy one myself. :>) |
Shortwave
Sep 14
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| Thank you for you okay, Sheriff. |
basskisser
Sep 14
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| What you fail to offer, of course, is anything with any REAL data. The
FACT is, global warming is occuring. The FACT is, the polar ice caps
are melting at a far greater rate, and at a far greater period of time
than ever. The FACT is, core samples show that CO2 is increasing and at
a rate that isn't linear. Because of ice samples taken that represent
60,000 years, we know that the CO2 rates are increasing logarithmically. |
basskisser
Sep 14
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