The big boat era is over...
The wife and I decided that it was time to sell the Contender a couple
of weeks ago when my partner called it quits. We made money and the
boat is one of the best I've ever owned and my partner is the best,
but his personal family life is getting more crowded and being younger
than I, wants to make the most of a new business venture and enjoy his
family.Can't blame him - I'd do the same myself. Fish chartering will only
take you so far. I can't handle the clientele myself and with my "part time" work plus
the rods and lures work I have to do, it's getting out of hand for
somebody who is theoretically retired. When we put the Contender up, we received a lot of interest because it
is unique boat for this area. Once we showed the fuel/oil logs and
cost of maintenance, two parties became very interested and one made
his move about five minutes ago. The boat will be moving to New
Jersey in short order to become the pride of a small charter fleet. All things considered, we broke even - maybe took a little loss, but
overall, it was a wash. "We" decided to get something larger than the Ranger, but still
trailerable with some amenities to make things comfortable. I'm
looking at Pursuit at this point as "we" aren't all the enamored of
the center console concept. Read "we" as my better half. :>) After much thought, I honestly don't want to get into the marina thing
again - it's nice, but I'd rather have the boats in my constant
surveillance. Plus, my truck is fully capable of handling a larger
boat, say something in the 26 foot class with ease, so that's the way
we are going. End of an era - sort of. :>) |
Shortwave
Sep 22 2006
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| Tom,
Congrats on the sale of the Contender. If you're looking in the 25/26 foot
range, consider looking at the Hydrasports Vector 25 and the especially the
Edgewater 265EX. If I downsized from the 30' Grady, those are the two that
would be at the top of my wish list. "Shortwave Sportfishing" <onetwothree@four.com> wrote in message |
NOYB
Sep 22
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| I have seen a couple of 31' center console Edgewater's...nice looking
boats. Tom, moving down in size is tough but sometimes more fun. ;-) |
Sep 22
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| Try selling a mid sized (48') older sport fish right now..... at 2 gallons per mile.... I bought the boat when I could get diesel
delivered at 72 cents/gallon ($1.44/mile) BTW... that was only 6 years
ago when oil was about 35/barrel. NOW when oil hit 70/barrel,
delivered untaxed red diesel hit $2.85 at it's peak.... How did Diesel
go 4x when oil went 2x.... anyway... now instead of 1.44/mi it's 5.70/mi. Some are selling but many people are going for the newer ones at 1.5
gal/NM for 1M to 500K vs 2gal/NM for 300K. The economics don't work
out but it is an excuse to get a newer boat. |
Ed
Sep 23
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| You should buy my Parker. Right size, and your wife will love it. :>} |
Harry
Sep 22
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| Get in line. I am showing the Navigator to his better half this morning.
We'll work on getting him out of this "trailerable" obsession. Eisboch |
Eisboch
Sep 22
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| Which model is it? |
JoeSpareBedroom
Sep 22
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| Aha! Well, if he buys your Nav, he'll need a dinghy-sized boat for shore
travels...my Parker! |
Harry
Sep 22
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| Just saw a Parker 25 leave the basin here ... looks like a fishing trip.
They are good boats. You might have to change the engine over to a Etec
though before he'll buy it. Eisboch |
Eisboch
Sep 22
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| Probably. It would take a lot to convince me to buy anything other than
a Yamaha four cycle, though. I've really become a believer. It's as
reliable as a Japanese car engine. |
Harry
Sep 22
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| I was talking to the boat broker here at Kingman yesterday. He had just
attended the boat show in Newport, RI. He reports that despite high fuel
prices, boats are still selling briskly up here. Eisboch |
Eisboch
Sep 22
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| I still have the 20' Scout "Sportsfish" sitting in my yard. It has 23 hours
on it.
I feel I've totally neglected it, but I just haven't had a chance to go
through it, charge up the batteries and use it. It has the Yamaha 200hp 4-stoke. (2003) For the short period of time that I
used it before hauling it off to Florida I was very impressed with it ...
and the boat.
I am just hoping that it still runs like it did the last time I used it as
it has been sitting now for well over a year. Eisboch |
Eisboch
Sep 22
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| Fuel prices have done very little to hurt "big boat" sales. If you've got the $miliion plus it takes- (and we're talking throw away
money here, not net worth) to buy a larger boat these days, and you
burn 2000 gallons of fuel in a year it frankly won't make any
significant difference to you whether that fuel costs $4k, $6k, $8k, or
$10k. The Wally Lunchbuckets of the world will be stressed out a lot more by
fuel prices.
Between payments on the F250 trailer hauler, the monthly payment on the
boat, and the monthly payments on everything else "owned" by the
stereotypical middle class family the paycheck is often stretched to
its breaking point before fuel prices go north.
For a lot of middle class wage earners, the difference of even
$300-$400 per month in summer fuel costs will keep a lot of boats on
the hard. Based on the last couple of years, it looks like the oil companies are
establishing a
pattern of pushing prices through the roof in the summer and then
moderating during the winter months. Not so good for boating, where
most fuel is consumed during the summer. However, boats were selling very well at the recently concluded Boats
Afloat Show in Seattle- and not just in the $1mm and up range.
Everybody I've talked to this week seems to have sold at least one boat
during the five day show, and I know for a fact that one of our local
dealers sold three (!) in a single day. (That's darn good in the boat
business). So far, the biggest impact of increased fuel costs seems to be some
changes in the way people use their boats, not whether they own a boat
or how often they use it.
People are still getting out on the water, and are saving fuel by not
ranging as far or going as fast. |
Chuck
Sep 22
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| You are? No kidding. Well... |
Shortwave
Sep 22
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| Which model is what? The Pursuit is the OS-255 - basically 26'. I'm not ruling out a 28 footer, but it would have to be the right one. At the moment, I'm just looking around at what my options are. And
one of the considerations is whether I can purchase one sans rigged
engines so I can rig with E-TEC's. I'm not going inboard. |
Shortwave
Sep 22
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| No....the Contender. Just looked at the web site - holy shit- those are
GORGEOUS boats. Really clean lines & layouts. Looks like they use first
class everything, in terms of fittings, too. |
JoeSpareBedroom
Sep 22
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| Here's how it happened. 1 - Partner calls - we have a long talk and I agree it would be best
for him to do his thing. He's a very bright guy, solid education and
he's done his fantasy - it's time to git 'r dun as it were with
business and family. 2 - I'm at the marina and I mention it to the broker - he asks if I'm
willing to sell the boat - he's got several buyers that he thinks it
would be perfect for. 3 - Talk it over with my better half. 4 - Call broker - go for it. 5 - Broker calls back same day - got two, yada, yada, yada... 6 - They bid each other to what I basically paid for the boat - one
guy pulls the trigger. Total elapsed time - two weeks start to finish. Can't be all that bad out there. |
Shortwave
Sep 22
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| You might want to take a look at these: http://www.rosboroughboats.com/rf246/custom/246Custom.htm They are fully trailerable and have a lot of options for both power
and layout. I've talked with several people who own them and have
heard nothing but good things. |
Wayne.B
Sep 22
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| 31 Fisharound - basically 32'. |
Shortwave
Sep 22
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| Speaking of boats and fuel, what do you know about Pacific Boats? |
Shortwave
Sep 22
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| Interesting - I'll give them a call. |
Shortwave
Sep 22
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| droolthat's not a boat. It's a sex toy. |
JoeSpareBedroom
Sep 22
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| They are quite the boat. It's surprising that they don't grab the
attention of most fishermen like some of the others do. I'm going to miss it, but time moves on. They really don't have a
boat of the type that I'm looking for so I'm going for the next best
thing like a Pursuit. |
Shortwave
Sep 22
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