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GPS losing lock in US?

Here's an interesting tidbit.

Over the past couple of weeks, I've experienced a loss of GPS satellite signals - in particular during the day. Basically, the receiver (doesn't matter which manufacturer) loses lock and you get a "no fix" message. It's happened maybe ten/twelve times even in the middle of the lake or Bay.

When I went to the sat status screen, no signals or very weak signals were indicated. Then the status screen would go green, the lock would return and I get the fix.

I thought it was just me or maybe I wasn't used to the equipment I was using, some of which was new to me.

I just read on one of the local email lists I belong too, several messages concerning this same problem with other receivers. Apparently, this is a mystery to everybody and according to one message, is being reported to the manufacturers who are stating that it's happening across the US and they have no explanation.

Anybody else have the problem?

Or any insight?

Tom
Oct 11
2006
Which, oddly (oh man I hate to say this - talk about a conspiracy thing) might have contributed to today's plane crash if he was flying instrument.

Oh don't even think that man.

Jeeze...

Tom
Oct 11
I don't know, but my cable TV just faded out.

Eisboch

Eisboch
Oct 11
Maybe the feds are testing the selective availability. (they *do* have the ability to block it to all but military) Maybe there's something they know that they aren't telling us .... maybe .....

Eisboch

Eisboch
Oct 11
We should all be so lucky.

Well, now that they finished showing Miami Vice Season 3 on Sleuth, that is.

Alotta
Oct 11
Like NK missiles? :>)

I don't know, but I've been looking around a little at some fishing related sites and there are scattered reports.

I would find it hard to believe that they would switch off the signals because GPS has become so important to the transportation and public safety system. My youngest's new patrol car has GPS in it (along with a whole bunch of other really cool tech) for reporting back on where he is when he makes traffic or felony stops. Trucking firms are really getting into it and I don't think FED EX could exist without it nowadays.

Tom
Oct 11
True. The truckers can't cheat anymore if GPS equipped. It tracks and records all the truck movements and hours.

I haven't heard of any GPS issues, but then again I don't use it as regularly as you do.

Eisboch

Eisboch
Oct 11
Both of my vehicles have GPS-based nav systems installed, and are active anytime the vehicle is running. Also, the boat has a GPS chartplotter that is turned on anytime the boat is out of the slip. Any loss of signal would be instantly reported by any of these devices, and I've not noticed any such issues over the past weeks. RG
Oct 11
Tom boats in the CT/RI Triangle.

Eisboch

Eisboch
Oct 11
Too much time spinning through plum gut. Harry
Nov 11
It's getting kind of interesting as it appears to be random, but there appears to be a pretty large sample of those reporting problems.

Even car systems are reporting loss of lock - I'm not very good at using Google, but I saw some gear heads complaining about it.

I'm not sure how much you use your GPS or how soon it will reacquire a signal in case of loss. From what I can gather with my limited search skills, it's a hit or miss thing and about the only way you would catch it is you look down or just happen to see the NO FIX blinker.

It's getting interesting in that most are guessing that it's a loss of differential signal and not satellite.

Not sure I buy into that.

But it is being reported to the manufacturer's so it's not something coming out of the blue kind of thing.

Tom
Oct 12
Well, I see it because in all my boats (and cars for that matter) the GPS units are placed so I can just glance at them and see what's what.

Than and the "NO FIX" flashing in the corner. :>)

Tom
Oct 12
You guys go ahead and laugh.

I'm ahead of the curve on this one - guaranteed. :>)

CT/RI Triangle indeed.

Tom
Oct 12
Laugh - go ahead - I'll wait until you stop. :>)

Speaking of Plum Gut, did you know there is a magnetic anomaly in the Plum Gut area?

Betcha didn't know that.

Oh, and for the record...

Spin this. :>)

Tom
Oct 12
After doing some searching, I've found complaints from the Agricultural community in the US and in Australia. Apparently the outages are raising some problems with harvesting wheat, corn and such (GPS is used for positioning and reporting yields per acre plus other arcane agricultural stuff) and for planting (like in Australia).

Curioiuser and curiouser.

Tom
Oct 12
I dunno. The Lexus system doesn't make a real big deal out of a lost signal right away because it has the ability to project an estimated fix from speed and direction telemetry from the car, but both my Garmins (truck/boat) start squawking right away if a signal/fix is lost. I don't see any posts about anomalies over at sci.geo.satellite-nav, and if anybody would be on top of this sort of thing, it's those guys. Try posting your observations over there, and see what sort of responses come up. It seems I remember that a new GPS bird was just launched a couple of weeks ago. Maybe what you're experiencing is related to bringing the new bird online? RG
Oct 12
Good idea - thanks for the tip.

I'll do that.

Tom
Oct 12
Maybe Larrys on to something, Those Iluminate people are probably behind all this. Don
Oct 12
Did your falsies fall overboard there? :>} Harry
Nov 11
   

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