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tip the marina manager?
I keep my small sailboat in a marina year-round. Is it customary to tip
or give a present to the marina manager at Christmas? How much?This is not a marina for the affluent. My boat is only worth about
$1600 and I pay $120 a month for the slip. Thanks in advance! |
st-roch
Oct 15 2006
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| 'I like your sandals!'? |
Calif
Oct 17
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| No, I don't. I simply get another job or more jobs from the same firm |
basskisser
Oct 16
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| Uh huh |
DSK
Oct 16
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| I have never tipped the marina manager (normally the owner). We tip the gas
dock attendants. We purchased a party tray for all the marina employees
last spring after their hard work in keeping our boats from breaking free or
sinking. We purchased a bottle of Crown Royal for the property owner who
allowed us (and continues to do so) to store our boat over the winter on his
(industrial) property for free. However, we have never tipped the marina
or the marina owner/manager. The bottom line is how *you* feel. If you want to do so perhaps you can buy
the entire marina crew a pizza lunch to show your thanks. ;-) |
Oct 16
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| Or that the human heart has hardened to the point where an annual token
of appreciation
cannot be considered anything other than a bribe, as well as
unneccessary, because, after all, the service was "paid for". We now
encounter tip jars almost everywhere we go.
I have a tough time justifying a tip when there has been no personal
service rendered. I hate to admit it, but when I get to the head of the
line in a self-service cafeteria (where you
gather your own food and are expected to clear your own table) I seldom
feel compelled to drop a buck or so into the jar labeled "college fund"
for the benefit of a surly, disinterested
cashier who doesn't smile, doesn't look me in the eye, and whose only
service is a few keypunches and announcing, "$8.35, please." Some
people seem well suited to minimum wage employment. Proliferating tip jars may reflect the economic fact that wages in
general have been pretty flat
for several years. Management may be responding to some of the requests
for increases with "Naw, not this year. But you can put out a tip jar
if you want to." Our service industry workers are being reduced to
begging, and that's pretty sad. The situation with this marina manager is different. He most likely
isn't soliciting tips and doesn't expect a tip in the course of his
daily or even monthly duties. A $20 bottle of booze,
a couple of decent cigars, a pair of tickets to the ballpark, or
whatever else depending on what the guy likes to do is different than
an attitude of "I won't lift a finger to keep your boat secure and
protected unless I am regularly tipped, and the amount work I do on
your behalf will depend entirely upon the amount and frequency of your
tips". So I disagree that the marina manager is trying to bribe the OP. A tip
in this case would probably be a sincere expression of appreciation for
personal service rendered, not a substitute for an equitable wage or a
bribe to get any service at all. |
Chuck
Oct 16
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| Well, some industries, such as restaurant workers, are paid a pittance
and their real pay IS their gratuities. I don't think marina managers
count on them, though. I remember when I was a kid, it was semi
customary to give the mail carrier (rural) a little something for xmas. |
basskisser
Oct 16
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| Pay scales are wacky, too. At a bar where I play, the owner's soon-to-be son
in law is the cook. He just graduated from some big-name cooking school in
California. One of the best restaurants in town offered him a job as a line
chef. $9.75 per hour. This is a place where the cheapest entree is $25.00,
and they're busy all the time, non-stop. Meanwhile, my son's working as a
T&A observer, also known as a lifeguard. He's getting paid $8.85. |
JoeSpareBedroom
Oct 16
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| Sometimes, the creativity of a tip becomes the reward in itself. Where I get
my car worked on, there are 3 guys. None of them eat donuts, or even the
best cheese danish in town, so that's out of the question. Two of them don't
drink, and I'm not so sure alcohol's a good gift anyway because you never
know, ya know? The guy who works on my car once spotted a hairline crack in
my brake rotor, which had just been installed by the Ford dealer, so as far
as I'm concerned, he may have saved my life. I tried to hand him some cash.
He said "I make plenty of money here, but I appreciate the gesture". So, I
sent him flowers, which he still laughs about five years later. I guess the
value of that gesture was that it DEFINITELY broke up his routine. :-) |
JoeSpareBedroom
Oct 16
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| Oh, yeah. I have a friend who is a professional chef, and also
graduated from a fine cooking school. He worked for peanuts for years
before getting ahead enough to co-own his own place. |
basskisser
Oct 16
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| It's stupid to assume that you are "already paying" for |
DSK
Oct 16
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| "Love, and stop putting those paper foot mats in my car" It's really a
great place. The guy's into handguns, so we talk. The other mechanic's a
really annoying lake trout charmer. Some people catch lake trout. Not Bruce.
He charms them into the boat. He takes orders from friends. If he wants 4,
he gets 4, anytime, always. It's nuts. To him, Lake Ontario is a vending
machine. |
JoeSpareBedroom
Oct 16
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| In SC, people offer my youngest money all the time when he stops on a
Motorist Assist. Down there the Troopers are expected to help with
tire changes or gas, stuff like that. He can't take it of course, but I'll bet he's had it happen at least
once a day. |
Tom
Oct 16
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| Not so. I offer professional services that are paid per negotiated
price as is in the contract. I go beyond the normal scope of work all
of the time to make sure things are done in budget and on time. I
suppose that I should expect a bonus for that? I don't, and I don't get
one. I get more work because of my reputation, though. Just handing
everyone a tip that performs a service to you IS stupid, however. Some
people would be down right offended by it. |
basskisser
Oct 16
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| Does he drink?
A bottle of hootch might be appropriate at Christmas.
Just don't expect to haul it over to his office in a Muslim cab. :-) |
Chuck
Oct 15
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| LOL! |
Calif
Oct 16
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| If you want to be a nice guy, then a bottle of something or a case of
good beer will suffice. Might provide some extra service at some point too boot. :>) |
Tom
Oct 16
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| ROTFL!! Great minds think alike. |
Tom
Oct 16
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| @b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: |
Larry
Oct 16
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| It's a shame that the work ethic has evolved to having to bribe someone
to get the service you are already paying for... |
basskisser
Oct 16
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| And, of course, tell him his girlfriend's welcome too. Then, HE will seem
like a big man in HER eyes. You will now have an indentured slave. |
JoeSpareBedroom
Oct 16
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| True, sort of. But, on the other hand, there are often opportunities for new
workers to think about better ways of doing their jobs. It's not always that
their work ethic is less than it should be. They're just young. These
opportunities are not always noticed. But when they are, it can become a
path to advancement, maybe more money, or just more job satisfaction. Last year, my son worked as a dishwasher in a restaurant. One night, the
place was packed, but nobody new was coming in. So, the kitchen slowed down
and he was caught up with his dishwashing, but the dining area was packed.
He felt dumb just standing around, so he put on a clean apron, and backed up
the waitresses with collecting dishes, filling water glasses, etc. When I
picked him up after his shift, he pulled $50 in singles out of his pocket
and said "Pops...the waitresses...the think I'm a god or something. They
just gave me all this". He could've made a lot of money (for a kid), if the putz owner hadn't gone
out of business. |
JoeSpareBedroom
Oct 16
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