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New QSB Series Cummins-Mercruiser Common Rail Diesels........
I spent an afternoon on a new 2007 Meridian 459 last week. (Meridian is
building a pretty decent boat these days). The highlight of the
experience was probably the latest version of the QSB Quantum Series
engines. This is a 5.9L displacement engine that can be set up for
230-425 HP application.These are computer controlled common rail engines, and there are
sensors at the crankshaft to monitor engine speed, sensors at the
camshaft to monitor engine phase, a sensor that monitors the
temperature of the air, one that keeps track of the temperature of the
coolant, one that monitors turbo boost pressure, and one that measures
the amount the throttle has been advanced.
All of this data is directed to an electronic control unit that control
the pressure in the fuel injector rail, and the system can make instant
adjustments as the throttle setting or other variables change. Observations: From stone cold, about 1/2 second from pressing the start
button to running.
No visible smoke. None at all. Faint whiff of diesel at startup, but
otherwise no smell and the
startup odor was a fraction of what one might otherwise expect. Cummins
claims the engine is 80% quieter at idle than previous Cummins
products, and while I didn't have a way to measure 80%, it does idle
smoothly and quietly. At speed, the engines were quieter than one might
typically expect, and still no smoke or diesel smell at any time.
(People who prefer gas engines because they don't like the soot, smoke,
and smell often associated with a diesel might do well to check these
out next time they buy a boat). The QSB engines are fully compliant with EPA and other emissions
regulations. There is also an 8.3L QSC engine (490-540 HP), and a QSL 9 litre
(285-405 HP). The big brother of the family is the QSM 11-Litre engine,
300-670 HP. |
Chuck
Oct 21 2006
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| @individual.net: |
Larry
Oct 22
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| That would be fine except for the next model up....QSL....(c; 73 DE W4CSC |
Larry
Oct 22
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| I spend at least a week a year in Louisiana, and several years ago spent
three weeks there, with Creoles and Cajuns. None I know are
schizophrenics like you. |
Harry
Oct 22
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| Is that a navy thing? |
Wayne.B
Oct 22
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| QSB Are my signals fading? Your signals are fading. Get it - quieter, less noise... On second thought. Never mind. :>) |
Short
Oct 22
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| Roger that. My signals are fading... QSB indeed. :-) |
Wayne.B
Oct 22
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| I always liked: INT QBP Are you flying in and out of cloud? (Question) QBP 5 I am flying in and out of cloud and at flight level/altitude 5000'
(Answer) Problem was, these were sailors talking to each other aboard ships at sea
level. The Navy in the 60's was a bit different than today. Basically a bunch of
hippies with haircuts. Eisboch |
Eisboch
Oct 22
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| Damn hippies... :>) |
Short
Oct 22
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Hey! I'm more of a hippy now than I was in the 60's. Slow learner, I
guess. Eisboch |
Eisboch
Oct 22
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| Guys, It stands for "Quiet Sum Bitch". |
Butch
Oct 22
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| Better late than never... |
Short
Oct 22
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| >Cummins products Interesting they would use the acronym QSB....
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Short
Oct 21
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| It's actually QS for Quantum Series, its initialism for electronically
controlled engines. There are QSBs, QSCs, et cetera. |
Harry
Oct 21
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| Whoosh...... --
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Short
Oct 21
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| He wouldn't know. Eisboch |
Eisboch
Oct 21
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| (1-800-Diesels)..... "Hello, Cummins? We're in a marina in (pick an exotic island) and it won't
start! I don't think the computer is injecting any fuel. Who's your
computer technician with that special computer terminal and years of
training that can fix it here?" Might be interesting to call 'em to see what their response to this call
would be before buying it. Joe's Diesel and Tiki Bar, who fixes the
diesels in the fishing boats tied up aft of you, can fix the old,
mechanical Perkins/DD/Lister/Deutz/Yanmar with his tool box in the truck.
I bet he'd shake his head and just say "NO WAY!" to a QSL. It won't run on
coathanger wire and bubble gum like a 6-71 will. It is something to think about on a boat you're going to cruise to very
exotic and backwards, technologically speaking, places with, isn't it? |
Larry
Oct 21
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| considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
Amen.
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Gene
Oct 21
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| Like it or not, these are representative of all future diesel engines for
boats, trucks (light duty and heavy duty) and all other diesel engine
applications. The engine in my pickup is electronically controlled and,
like the boat engine that Chuck reported on doesn't smoke or belch black
smoke. When I had the 2002 Egg Harbor two versions of the 3126 Cat was
available .... conventional and electronic. The electronic version was
quieter, smoke-free and had an additional 30 horsepower. I had the
conventional engines. I think it's a good thing. Eisboch |
Eisboch
Oct 21
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| considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
It may be "better," but it increases cost of operation and makes
diagnostics and repair a high tech endeavor. In Larry's scenario, you
may not have a boat mechanic cum tuner in your pocket... in that case,
you are screwed. Throughout time, the best inventions have had the superior
characteristic of simplicity. Marrying a diesel engine and a computer
is, IMHO, not good..... it's just crazy. I'm not immune.. I'll
certainly have to spring for the diagnostic computer if my Suzukis
burp... but I still think it is just plain crazy..... a computer in
search of a problem.... crazy.
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Gene
Oct 21
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| You're right. Oh well... :>) --
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Short
Oct 21
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| I don't spend much time in Mississippi, Alabama, or Texas. |
Harry
Oct 21
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| I know they're very thankful..... Why have you stopped there? PLEASE leave out SC, GA and especially
Louisiana from your places to stop, also! God, wouldn't it be funny to strand Harry in a Gullah, Creole or Cajun
community for a week?....(c; |
Larry
Oct 21
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| You know, Larry, when you meander through life as you do, as an
alcoholic psychotic, you ought to at least try to stay on your meds, too. |
Harry
Oct 22
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