In the Aftermath of September 11, 2001: Some Thoughts for Leftists and Terrorists

As evidenced here in this group and elsewhere, leftists (liberals) in the U.S.A., before and during this election cycle, have been having a field day bashing this great country and her leaders. They say the war against Islamic fascist terrorists is immoral. They label our government and soldiers immoral and accuse them of being mercenaries, rapists, torturers, genocidal, imperialistic and irrational. The basis of this slander is their own immorality. Let me explain why . . .

Whatever may be open to disagreement, there is one act of evil that may not, the act that no man may commit against others and no man may sanction or forgive. So long as men desire to live together, no man may initiate - do you hear me? no man may start the use of physical force against others. Too interpose the threat of physical destruction between a man and his perception is to negate and paralyze his means of survival; to force him to act against his own judgment, is like forcing him to act against his own sight. Whoever, to whatever purpose or extent, initiates the use of force, is a killer acting on the premise of death in a manner wider than murder: the premise of destroying man's capacity to live.

Do not open your mouth to tell me that your mind has convinced you of your right to force my mind. Force and mind are opposites; morality ends where the gun begins. When you declare that men are irrational animals and propose to treat them as such, you define thereby your own character and can no longer claim the sanction of reason - as no advocate of contradiction can claim it. There can be no "right" to destroy the source of rights, the only means of judging right and wrong: the mind.

To force a man to drop his own mind and to accept your will as a substitute, with a gun or bomb in place of a syllogism, with terror in place of proof, and death as the final argument - is to attempt to exist in defiance of reality. Be it a highwayman who confronts a traveler with the ultimatum: "Your money or your life," or a politician who confronts a country with the ultimatum: "Your children's education or your life," the meaning of the ultimatum is: "Your mind or your life" - and neither is possible to man without the other. If there are degrees of evil, it is hard to say who is the more contemptible: the brute who assumes the right to force the mind of others or the moral degenerate who grants to others the right to force his mind. That is the moral absolute one does not leave open to debate. And this is where leftists join with absolute evil because they do not fight the forcing of the mind. I do not grant the terms of reason to men who propose to deprive me of reason. I do not enter discussions with neighbors who think they can forbid me to think. I do not place my moral sanction upon a murderer's wish to kill me. When a man attempts to deal with me by force, - I answer him with force. It is only as retaliation that force may be used and only against the man who starts its use. No, I do not share his evil or sink to his concept of morality: I merely grant him his choice, destruction - the only destruction he has a right to chose: his own. He uses force to seize a value; I use it only to destroy destruction. A holdup man seeks to gain wealth by killing me; I do not grow richer by killing a holdup man. I seek no value by means of evil, nor do I surrender my values to evil.

This is how conservatives think. This is the very core of conservative philosophy. This is how they think and this is how they attempt to live their lives. This is why conservatives fight the good fight. Is this evil in your minds? If so you are a leftist. You don't see evil because you embrace evil, you embody evil, you perpetuate it. This is why leftists want conservatives dead. This is the reason behind the 9-11 attacks. This is the Islamic fascist terrorist creed. You leftists and liberals who surrender your minds to such as these are dead already as far as conservatives are concerned. We ask only that you not reach out of your graves and drag us down with you.

Note: Thanks to Ayn Rand for much of the above. If you liked what you just read, may I suggest you read "Atlas Shrugged." You are the people this world must count upon in order that the mind survive. . .

Paladin (Have Blue Water Yacht - Will Travel)

-W

We would never elect a President named "Larry". Lawrence, yes. Larry, not a chance.

John

Larry wrote:

That is what happens to them when they smoke pot all day long.... And listen to Art Bell and George Noore all night long while smoking even more pot to keep up the buzz.

Paladin (Have Blue Water Vessel - Will Travel)

¦ ¦ Larry wrote: ¦ ¦ > "Capt John" <jscanlon@parker.com> wrote in news:1163325894.406589.231150 ¦ > @f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: ¦ > ¦ > ¦ >>You must be completely out of your mind, only a nut would beleave this ¦ >>garbage. You need help, seek it out before you end up in a padded room. ¦ >> ¦ >>John ¦ >> ¦ >> ¦ > ¦ > ¦ > What blinds you so? LOOK at the evidence! It was a setup. It got rid ¦ > of a white elephant set of buildings that was losing millions a month. ¦ > Even Silverstein, himself, said, "We pulled it.", right on live TV. ¦ > ¦ > They did the same thing to drag us into this war that the Nazis did to ¦ > the Reichstag to drag the Germans into letting the Nazis take over and ¦ > start the war. History is merely repeating itself. Do you think we're ¦ > somehow immune from political history? T'ain't so. Do a little ¦ > investigation about the '41 attack on Pearl Harbor. We KNEW and didn't ¦ > tell the Admirals and Generals in Pearl what was coming. It was the way ¦ > to get isolationist America into WW2! History, again, repeating itself. ¦ > This tactic has been used as a shock weapon throughout history.... ¦ > ¦ > The BOTTOM of the columns MELTED, over 4000F, by THERMITE, not by the ¦ > airplanes a quarter mile above them. NO steel reinforced building EVER ¦ > collapsed because of a FIRE...until 9/11. Horrendous fires, much more ¦ > destructive than the WTC fires have happened to much lesser buildings and ¦ > THEY DIDN'T COLLAPSE, even when the whole wall structure was consumed! ¦ > The columns in them, far inferior to WTC columns, stood firm throughout ¦ > the fire.... ¦ > ¦ > And my simple question stands.....At the Pentagon, WHERE IS THE AIRPLANE? ¦ > What are they hiding in the box the air force people are carrying off ¦ > under the blue tarp? It's certainly NOT a fully loaded 737! ¦ > ¦ > ¦ > ¦ > Larry

I know it's a nice thought, to blame them, but there's way too much evidence to the contrary, dispite the government's efforts to cover it all up, like:

Why was it so hot in the basement of the WTC it melted the steel columns holding the building up, for DAYS and WEEKS after the event? Why did engineers who got curious find evidence that Thermite melted the columns? Why, for the first time, were the occupants of WTC run out of the building "to install network cables" for several weeks before 9/11? Many of them reported hearing jackhammers and drilling on unoccupied floors, which there were many in this white elephant that was losing Silverstein millions a day in unpaid rent. What were they drilling? Why? Were these the floors on which you could plainly see simultaneous explosions as the building was on its way down, a controlled demolition? Why was all the concrete pulverized into dust that rolled over the city if it just pancaked down floor upon floor? Why was there no evidence of pancaking there always is in such an occurrance? Why did WTC7 simply collapse straight down into its own footprint, another controlled demolition you can see if you watch the movie from the back of the building frame-by-frame, noticing how the penthouse on the left end collapses INSIDE the building as the columns holding it up are melted away by the thermite planted inside it. It hardly had any fires at all and NONE under the penthouse! Don't you find all that simply amazing, like the cops screaming into their walkie talkies just before they died of multiple explosions BENEATH them UNDER where the planes hit? Then, I find it curious that over 300 people in Brooklyn, where the planes came from, saw planes with NO WINDOWS and NO TAIL LOGO ever airlines is so proud of with a round blue logo under the cockpit windows. What was that hanging under the plane that flashes at just the instant it enters the building, anyway? I looked at our airport and I don't see any long objects hanging under the baggage compartments on any planes.....

Speaking of planes, where did the plane go that hit the pentagon? The hole in the wall before the building collapsed was 16' across. I doubt it fit through there without leaving TONS of wings/tail/wheels/engines big enough for a man to stand up inside outside the building in a huge pile of rubble. Flight 957 crashed into NY when its tail ripped off because the copilot screwed up recovering from wake turbulence on takeoff. Where it crashed dead into 4 houses with enough force to simply flatten the neighborhood, notice how the fire from the fuel oil burned for hours and hours and hours and even the firemen had trouble putting it out. One picture from that crash stands out in my mind....a fireman standing on top of a monstrous pile of aluminum and airplane parts over 20' high playing his hose into the burning mass below him...a huge pile of airplane parts. Don't you find it odd that there were no airplane parts to speak of at the Pentagon, no fire that burned all that office equipment for hours and hours and hours? After the roof collapsed, 40 minutes after the EXPLOSION, one picture just tears me up. On the edge of the collapse, right over where thousands of gallons of left wing fuel should have turned the whole place into an inferno, right on the edge, sits a wooden chair piled with papers held down with an old computer monitor made of plastic between the edge and an old wooden file cabinet. Not a single edge on any of that exposed paper is even singed! The monitor looks like someone just sat it down, not melted from the inferno of thousands of gallons of jet fuel burning hot enough to melt the steel in the World Trade Center all the way into its basement! Nothing looked even disturbed in that office space...only 100' from the hole!

Nope...terrorists my ass. Nice plan, though, including all the mysterious radar outages, multiple military exercises running simultaneously to divert the attention of any snoopy military pilots wondering, aloud, why noone called them, preoccupied miles and miles away from NY and DC. Noone saw anything of them for hours and hours on the government bureaucrats' radars with a hundred pairs of eyes trained on them watching every plane on the move past the taxiways. What a coincidence, eh?

On this Veterans' Day, this vet would like to send his personal condolences to the 25,000 families whos kids have been killed in this grand scheme from the Supreme Council members 13 blocks N of the White House, run by the bankers for their personal profits across the planet. The string pullers in Tel Aviv don't give a shit about American kids dying on their battlefield.

I lived in Iran for 2 years back in the 70s, working for the Shahanshah's air force. I've watched the elite technicians trying to fix a simple voltmeter and I can assure you the only people in any real danger from any nuclear bomb program Iran might have....is the people living in the neighborhood where they're fooling around with it. They're DOOMED!

"Paladin" <noneofyourbusiness.www> wrote in message

I do not believe they are primitive! Their actions prove they are modern and sophisticated. They've convinced me. You sell them short. If you view them as primitive then your conclusion is highly suspect. It would follow the results of the terrorist attacks must have been just coincidence or good luck if your thinking holds. But, let's say you are correct. These "primitive" men killed 3,000 Americans because they hate us and want to destroy us. Should we not defend ourselves against primitives who kill us? ¦ ¦ I know it's a nice thought, to blame them, but there's way too much ¦ evidence to the contrary, dispite the government's efforts to cover it ¦ all up, like: ¦ ¦ Why was it so hot in the basement of the WTC it melted the steel columns ¦ holding the building up, for DAYS and WEEKS after the event? Why did ¦ engineers who got curious find evidence that Thermite <snipp>

Oh My, another of those wack job conspiracy nut jobs. You, sir, prove abrogation of mind is fact!

Paladin (Have Blue Water Yacht - Will Travel)

It's got to do with the fact that we're all in the *same boat* here in the U.S.A.. The Islamic fascist terrorists don't want to kill just conservative Americans. They want to kill ALL Americans. Stopping to think of what this might mean to you could include you inability ever again to mess about in boats. . . .

Paladin (Have Blue Water Yacht - Will Travel)

¦ ¦ ¦ "Paladin" <noneofyourbusiness.www> wrote in message ¦ news:4555d13b$0$21098$88260bb3@free.teranews.com... ¦ > In the aftermath of September 11, 2001: some thoughts for leftists and ¦ > terrorists ¦ > to consider. . . ¦ > ¦