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Cabin leak check?

Anyone had experience looking for cabin rain leaks by pressurizing with a shop vac? Dick
Richard
Nov 22
2006
Ian, the boat is a Nonsuch 26 in Port Townsend WA and I am in N. California for the winter. I calculated that for a 3psi stall pressure from a Shop Vac that there would be 90Klbs lift on the deck area, this would be distributed around a 67ft hull-deck joint periphery giving about 120lbs/inch separating force. The joint is thru-bolted every 4ins. However I doubt that 3psi would be achieved because of air leaks to the chain locker etc and was going to include a manometer U tube in the dummy hatch board. My boat yard foreman refused to conduct the experiment for the reasons you stated and said it would blow the mast out of the boat (I figured a 300lb lift on the fat catboat mast which also has a 200lb wishbone boom hanging on it and a restraining tie down to the step). He is going to remove and re-bed the grab rails and Atkins & Doyle hatch (known problems on these 24 yr old boats) but there is also a "Charlie Noble", Dorade box and bull's eyes penetrating the cabin top and I was hoping to pinpoint all leaks before he got started. Thanks for your interest, Dick Richard
Nov 23
I'd just let it rain on it, and look for leaks.... basskisser
Nov 23
"It takes well over a year to build one, and I'm glad we were able to fix it without breaking it." nice thought! Tim
Nov 23
The tough thing about many cabin leaks is learning just where the water is coming in. Where it is coming out will be rather evident. Water can run a long ways behind upholstery or veneers, so the entry point into the cabin may or may not be in the same place as the breach of the superstructure.

Fortunately, the vast majority of cabin leaks occur around a fitting. Rail stanchions, vents, hatches, etc. That makes it a bit easier to begin to isolate the probable source points.

Chuck
Nov 23
be ***** careful!!! Ive done dinghy tanks with a foot pump before and it works ok but we were VERY careful to keep the pressure really low. Leaks were located with the aid of a 25% solution of washing up liquid and a paint brush.

A quick calculation assuming a vacuum cleaner can reach 3 PSI and for a deck 24' by 8' gives a force of over 40 tons on your deck/hull joint.

I guestimated the pressure with info from the Fermilab website where they were getting 8 PSI differential using ordinary vacuum cleansers, some on suck, some on blow to clean out a *really* expensive bit of high tech kit. <http://www.fnal.gov/pub/today/NuMIhorn.html>

If you do decide to go ahead with this, *Please* record it on video for posterity. If my predictions of doom are valid, it should be well worth watching.

Ian
Nov 23
   

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