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is there a season on lake fishing? and limits?

Soemthing I've wondered is if there is a limit on certian catch's and a season on some species of lake fish.

Like on most wild game, there are seasons and limits to hunting, deer, squirel, pheasant, quail, dove, etc. etc.

I didn't know if certian lakes have a limit or seasons on certian catch's?

just curious...

Tim
Jan 25
Tom, The Subject header " is there a season on lake fishing? and limits?" was part of the thread that started with the "N***** offensive thread. Tim, either intentionally to change the offensive post, or unintentionally added his question into the offensive post thread by changing the subject heading. While this does change the subject header, it is still part of the original offensive thread. I read Chuck's response as a joke, and did not read it as pompous or directed towards anyone in the NG, but the troll who crossposted the thread that most of us would find offensive. Reginald
Jan 26
Well I read it differently because it came up as a separate post.

Unlike others, I don't read the troll posts.

And it still was more of Chuck being Chuck.

Short
Jan 26
Your response does highlight how easy it is to allow one's personal feelings based upon previous posts to impact how one interprets that person's post. Reginald
Jan 26
Tim's "question" was a type-over of the offensive thread. Chuck
Jan 26
Gentlemen, I confess that I rode the offenders coat tail to post my quesion concering limits on lake catchs.

It was a question i was going to post anyhow, but took advantage of the moment to change the origional to what I wished to make it more appropriate for this NG, because I found the OP's posting nothing but a pathetic troll. I didn't reply back to the cross posting, but cleaned off the other NG's and formated my post to rec.boats only. So as not to fant he flame.

When I key in to rec.boats, and see somebody posts something like that, I will continue to take advantage of the situation and change the thread to a more friendly and hopefully useful discussion.

Tim
Jan 26
So, am I now qualified to be a net-cop?

If so, where do I pick up my badge!

LOL!

Tim
Jan 26
On Jan 26, 4:57 am, Short Wave Sportfishing <onetwoth...@four.com> wrote:

> > And it still was more of Chuck being Chuck.- Hide quoted text -- Show quo= ted text -

(almost) Everybody got it, except you.

Chuck
Jan 26
Chuck's the top contender for the Wasted Bandwidth of Rec.Boats Award.

Couldn't you make your explanations a bit longer? Maybe work in a press release for some new product, too?

Harry
Jan 26
Changing the title of a post and reposting it as a new post is meaningless and does little to effect change on the part of the original poster. I wipe my thread display to only showy unread messages - which I suspect others do as well, and it comes up as a new post. Thus, what's the point?

Sometimes I wonder if posting here anymore is worth the effort.

Short
Jan 26
Good morning, Harry. We can always rely on the fact that while you may have nothing of any relevence to contribute to discussions about boating, you are never at a loss for a negative personal remark. You're just so special. I'll bet the entire group is honored that you would take a break from shooting down cardboard people with your Saturday night special to help elevate the tone here. I know I certainly am. Chuck
Jan 26
It may not be, but how did this thread impact on your decision? Reginald
Jan 26
On Jan 26, 8:37 am, Short Wave Sportfishing <onetwoth...@four.com> wrote:

> > Sometimes I wonder if posting here anymore is worth the effort.

Some folks find it easier to type when not balancing a chip on the shoulder. :-)

It's easy to see why you jumped to the conclusion that you did when you explained how your newsreader works. Based on the way most people see and read the group, my intent was obvious. Sorry that you mistook it, and disappointed that you felt I was directing that sort of comment to one of the NG regulars. I can be a major jerk rather often, but I deserve a bit more credit than you are prepared to extend. No problem. You're entitled to your erroneous opinions. :-)

Chuck
Jan 26
It does - accept it for what it is. Short
Jan 26
> Sometimes I wonder if posting here anymore is worth the effort.

It's 12 degrees outside, what else are you going to do? ;-) Actually, this week, the hard water fishermen are getting their first licks in. When I see some guy standing out on the ice, wind whistling around, the only thought that comes into my head is, I can't believe I actually used to do that.

thunder
Jan 26
Sure it's worth the effort! I always enjoy your posts and thread responses, Tom.

Concerning "Thus, what's the point"?

What you are saying about "wiping a thread display to only show unread messages..." Well, until I get an alternate newsreader, GoogleGroups will always have the nasty offending thread title staring us Google users in the face until the thread title is changed. Unfortunately the OP's droll is still in the thread,, and Google, doesn't have any editing, blocking, capabilities, so its wide open for all of us google users.

Tim
Jan 26
I'm just feeling really snarky - no problem. I lost my best buddy Short
Jan 26
Sorry to hear about you losing a member of your family. Our first dog lived till he was 18, and fortunately, he was fairly healthy up till the end. I think you are being optimistic about getting over him in a week. It took me substantially longer than a week to get over his death.

None the less, they bring you so much joy, and unconditional love, and they ask so little in return, and nice walk, a rub behind the ear, a friendly smile etc.

While a puppy will never replace Duke, they sure do provide a pleasant distraction.

Reginald
Jan 26
Sorry to hear it, Shortwave. 12 years is a good lifetime, but still ....

Eisboch

Eisboch
Jan 26
I apologize - I took it wrong. A mistake. My bad.

There is an excuse, but it's not a good one.

So take it for what you will.

Short
Jan 26
Saltwater at the Oregon border says you have to land fish that are legal in the state you land your boat in. But have to observe the rules of the state you are fishing in. Rockcod may be open in Oregon but not in Cal, so if in Calif do not land rockfish. Admitted it is easier when there is only one border and it is well defined. Calif
Jan 26
Sorry as hell about the dog. I know how you feel. I still get tears in the eyes when certain memories hit. Hang in there. John
Jan 26
Sorry to hear about the loss of your buddy Tom. JimH
Jan 26
Thanks Dick - I appreciate it.

He had a seizure and while he wanted to keep going, he couldn't - it happened on Monday evening and I stayed up with him all night, but he didn't recover and he was in obvious pain - the light went out so to speak.

I'll get over it eventually, but this was the toughest one I've ever had to do - Duke was a very special dog and I miss him terribly. We used to do the morning tour together - get in the truck, head down to the store, get the paper, I'd buy him a bottle of water and then we'd head over to the local state park where I'd let him run around a little bit when we'd play a game with the water bottle - I'd squirt the water at him and he'd try to catch it - he got pretty good at it acutely - kind of like the football players on the sidelines. :>) This morning I caught myself buying a bottle of water and it bummed me out all over again. :>)

Ah well - nothing for it I guess except to find another dog - I just can't be without three dogs at the same time - wouldn't be right. :>)

Short
Jan 26
Thanks John. Short
Jan 26
Thanks Jim. Short
Jan 26
Sorry about your dog. I was a bit reluctant to get another last summer because I still remember the last spaniel getting run over in front of me. Wife went out and got the Springer anyway so I'm enjoying his puppy time greatly. I hope this one lasts longer than out last two spaniels. Don
Jan 26
On Jan 26, 11:45 am, Short Wave Sportfishing <onetwoth...@four.com> Chuck
Jan 26
It is all about unconditional love.....dogs are master of it and losing one, even after a short period, must be devastating. JimH
Jan 26
I did not see your post when I made mine. Unconditional love is what it is all about with dogs. ;-) JimH
Jan 26
Chuck may be a distant second, very distant second, to your being the the number one poster to rec.boats. Bert
Jan 26
yes there are. Reginald
Jan 25
There should be no limit on scum sucking bottom feeders that eat a steady diet of excrement from other species. :-) Chuck
Jan 25
Yes.

Check your state's DEP or what ever agency controls hunting and fishing. There will be a listing of seasons, limits and areas that may have limited seasons or out of bounds.

Short
Jan 25
Lake Erie and tributaries catch limits: http://www.ohiodnr.com/wildlife/fishing/fishregs/#lakeerie JimH
Jan 25
Um....

Er...

Okay...

Short
Jan 25
Thanks. I think I'll see what I can find out about Carlyle and Forbes lakes Tim
Jan 25
Chuck is heeling for membership in the "fritz-bert-jackoff" fraternity. Harry
Jan 25
Harry, you're coming down on someone who's against a post such as, " A Nigger's Guide to Non-Traditional Careers"?

Does that mean you're all for such posts?

You're a neat guy, but not quite that neat!

JohnH
Jan 25
Great response!

Yes. Most fresh water species have limits and seasons. Here, for example, are Maryland's fresh water rules:

Bass, Largemouth and Smallmouth 12 inches or as provided for by special regulations 5 - daily 10 - possession, in aggregate Closed March 1 - June 15 Note: Catch and release is permitted during closed seasons Bivalves/Shellfish (Mussels/Clams) No Harvest No Harvest No open season Channel Catfish None 5 - daily 10 - possession, in aggregate Open year round Madtoms None Bait restriction of 35 per day Open year round Chain Pickerel (Pike) 14 inches 5- Daily Open year round

Crappie (White and Black) None 15 - daily 30 - possession, in aggregate Open year round Eels 6 inches 25 Open year round Herring (Blueback and Alewife) None None Open Season: January 1 through June 5 Muskellunge and Tiger Muskie (Hybrid) 36 inches 1 (in aggregate) Open year round Northern Pike 30 inches 2 Open year round Shad, American (white) and Hickory CLOSED SEASON Striped bass (Rockfish) and Hybrid Striped Bass Special regulations Note: Special Regulations 1 (See below) Sunfish, including bluegills, rock bass (commonly known as Red Eye or Goggle-Eye) None 15 - daily 30 - possession, in aggregate Open year round Trout - Statewide (all species) None- except where otherwise noted 2 - daily and possession in aggregate (except as provided for by special regulation.) None(except where noted) -Put-and-Take areas (all species) None 5 - daily and possession in aggregate Check closures and stocking schedule when available. - Zero (0) Creel and Possession Limit all trout caught in this area must be released on North Branch of the Potomac River from Westernport downstream to Pinto. Open year round Walleye 15 inches, except a 20 inch maximum in the Potomac River mainstem approximately 0.5 miles upriver from Chain Bridge upstream to the flood control dam in Cumberland from Jan. 1 - April 15 5 daily and possession Open year round all state waters except on Deep Creek Lake and the Youghiogheny Reservoir downstream of the Rt. 42 bridge where a closure of March 1 through April 15 is in effect Yellow Perch

None (if caught in nontidal lakes or ponds)

9 inches in nontidal streams and rivers

None in lakes and ponds, or upstream of them

5- daily and possession

Open year round, but see special restrictions below

These can also be found at: http://tinyurl.com/34jgbr

JohnH
Jan 25
Somehow I thought Chuck was talking about the low life scum sucker who started this thread " N***** Guide to Non traditional careers". It looks like Harry must be feeling guilty and thought Chuck was talking about him. Reginald
Jan 25
Ditto. John
Jan 25
So, if you catch over the limit, or the wrong fish, in the wrong season. what kind of a fine can you get. I mean, is that classified as "poaching"? Tim
Jan 25
It depends on the officer inspecting.

Sometime it can't be helped. For instance, if you are blackfishing and catch a flounder out of season that can't be returned to the water for whatever reason (swallowed hook for instance), they are pretty lenient. If you are targeting a species out of season, then they will be more difficult.

However part of the problem is that enforcement is spotty and if you fish the areas I fish, you have to deal with three states with differing size/catch limits and filet requirements (none of them compatible)( in the space of 200 yards Makes for an interesting time. I've been stopped and inspected by all three state DEP/DEM organizations and once, all three in one day.

Short
Jan 25
How's that work? Generally around here, it's the jurisdiction where you launch that takes priority. thunder
Jan 25
CT has a short shoreline in the Stonington area. It's only about 200 feet off the shore - shorter in some areas - like 50 feet and your in another state until you get past New London and into LIS where it's different and more reasonable.

In the Fisher's Island area, most of the waters belong to NY, move 10 feet North and you are in RI, move another 50 feet West and you are in CT. All three have their own rules and enforce their own jurisdiction - in particular RI. When I launch at Barn Island for instance, I go through three states in the space of 50 feet.

In Narragansett Bay, it can get even sticker as RI owns most of the Bay with MA owning a very short piece along the shoreline bordering MA - less than 100 yards. In theory, you can catch a fish in RI that doesn't meet the requirements of MA and get pinched for it.

However, to address your question, it's where you are, not where you launch.

Short
Jan 25
Man! that can be difficult. I'm wondering why the three states don't get together and make a tri-state ruling or santion for that one area, or in areas where that same situation can be extremely difficult. Tim
Jan 25
Tim, Check with your state DNR and they can give you the specfics for your state. Every state, and many times lakes and rivers and coastal areas, have different regulations. Reginald
Jan 25
Well, it's all about turf. And fines. And control. And...

We've (by we I mean several clubs I belong to and am active in) have tried to regionalize the rules, but it's impossible - everybody has a different opinion and the commercial guys get involved and it gets extremely messy - everybody quits trying which is the intent of making it messy in the first place.

And don't even try to attempt a saltwater license for recreational types - oh my gosh, no.

Short
Jan 25
Here are the '06 rules for IL.

http://dnr.state.il.us/fish/digest/

You should get a hard copy when you renew your license each year.

Dan

Dan
Jan 25
Well, for openers, you asked about freshwater, and Short Wave is talking about saltwater. CWM Charlie
Jan 25
ernity.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

Not really.

If you want to read "n***er" threads, Harry, I suspect you know where to find as many as you can stand. If taking a stand against the use of the NG to post hateful KKKrapola makes somebody a bad guy in your eyes, then I am honored by your contempt.

Chuck
Jan 25
We have state fishing license. Required in both fresh and salt. As to regional regs, they do a good job on both lake Tahoe and the Colorado River. Same regs both sides and as long as you are boating the waters either states license is good. Fish from shore and the appropriate states license is required. Calif
Jan 26
Chuck fights against the OT,and in this particular case a racist post in this Boating NG.

krause lumps him into the "fraternity".

harry finally got something right...

1 - Fritz, Bert, Chuck and I are all against racism, and OT posts 2 - We all recognize and identify harry is one of the problems in this NG... therefore his proclamation of us as the the "fraternity".

harry has clearly identified us all as being anti-racist, and him apparently not agreeing with that.. What camp does that leave harry in?

"scum sucking bottom feeder" indeed...

Got Boat, Harry?

Jack
Jan 25
Thanks Dan, that's what I'm looking for.... Tim
Jan 25
And what exactly did the offensive post have to do with this thread?

What exactly did "There should be no limit on scum sucking bottom feeders that eat a steady diet of excrement from other species. :-)" have to do with Tim's question.

More to the point, why did you read the offensive post in the first place? It that where you got your quote for Tim's post?

Or was this a show for the rest of us to indicate just how outraged you are? Your righteous anger over some idiot trolling for a response?

Despite being a nice guy, your still a pompous ass.

Short
Jan 26
For fresh water, that works fine. We have several lakes in the area that border neighboring states and the general rule is the state you are licensed is the governing body when you fish those lakes. In fact, one lake in MA borders all three states - RI/CT/MA and the one instance where all three states agreed on limits, size, etc.

Salt water, it's a whole different thing - freedom of the seas, yada, yada, yada. Very provincial. When I was on the local NMF Board, there were four of us who came up with a detailed practical plan to regionalize size and limits and developed a plan for a salt water license to improve launch ramps, marsh areas and access points for shore fishers - presented it and it never got past the NMF review board - all politics and we didn't have the horsepower because the review board has members from all the adjoining states and their standing orders are to protect their turf.

Short
Jan 26
   

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