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Remote Battery Filling System

Here's a product that I just stumbled across that may be of interest to those with large battery banks that are difficult to access:

http://www.batteryfillingsystems.com/default.asp?page=home

I have no experience with this system but it was recommended by someone on a boating EMAIL list that I subscribe to, and looks like it might solve a problem on my boat.

Basically it uses special replacement battery caps that are tied together with plastic tubing and a remote filling device. Each cap has a float valve which closes when the cell is full. They sell different types of caps and floats depending on battery type.

It is being marketed to industrial and golf cart users but I can't see any reason why it wouldn't work on a boat.

Wayne.B
Mar 10
>warranty wiht the first 7 not pro-rated) is that they are so super >easy to install and replace.

Rolls makes a great battery, no question. On the other hand the cost of a Rolls 8D is somewhere north of $500 if my memory is correct. I recently purchased a brand X 8D from NAPA auto parts for $160. Assuming I get the usual 5 years from it, I'll be money ahead.

Wayne.B
Mar 11
Yeah, but you will lose "dock prestige" if they ever discover the cheap batteries after all that braggin' about only using the most expensive batteries on earth in such a fine yacht....like the rest of them do....

Larry

Larry
Mar 11
Boaters ask each other questions about what systems they use on their boats -- happens in every marina, every day. If boater "A" says, "I use only Optima batteries!" because they like them, and boater "B" says, "Good enough, I prefer Rolls," is the Rolls owner bragging and expecting to gain this mythical "dock prestige," or are they simply passing on information?

Would you have Rolls owners remain silent about their batteries to avoid appearing "snobbish," or would you have them lie, claiming instead that they use Duracells?

You can be a very silly person at times, you know?

KLC
Mar 11
If you get five years from a bargain basement battery you're doing really well.

Rolls pencils out if you figure the more typical three years from a generic battery. If you pay somebody to replace the battery for you, or if you value the time involved or put any value on avoiding the risk of physical injury associated with "horsing" 150 pounds in what always turns out to be an incorrect posture, the Rolls puts you money ahead. The warranty on Rolls is 10 years, (vs 24-36 months for most Brand X), and life expectancy is often several years beyond the end of the warranty.

The other spiffy thing about the Rolls is that when most batteries fail it's a failure in a single cell. With most batteries, you have to junk all six cells bcause one has gone bad. With a Rolls, you simply test the cells until you find the bad one, unbolt the bad cell from the network, buy one new cell instead of six new cells, and forge ahead.

Chuck
Mar 11
That, and after a long weekend at anchor somebody has to be able to jump start the fleet of guys who think that cheaper is better. :-) Chuck
Mar 11
>really well. Wayne.B
Mar 11
How close is NAPA to that nice remote anchorage where the cheapy battery fails? ;-) KLC
Mar 11
My boat has so much redundancy in critical systems that replacement parts in a remote anchorage are an unlikely scenario. This particular 8D can be parallelled with a bank of 4 golf cart batts, which in turn can be parallelled with with either a second set of golf carts or an engine starting 8D.

We had the raw water pump fail on our primary generator last year mid way through a cruise of the Abaco out islands. After spending a futile couple of hours trying to locate a new one, we continued on using the backup generator. If both generators fail I can now generate enough 12 volt amperage with the main engine alternators to power a 2 KW inverter. That's enough to keep the holding plate fridges and freezer cold, or do some light duty cooking. It would be an act of hubris to rename the boat the M/V Unstoppable but it comes as close as I know to make it.

Wayne.B
Mar 11
The only complaint I have is the ridiculous cost for some molded plastic jim.isbell
Mar 10
"Large battery banks that are difficult to access" sounds like a serious problem, at least on a boat. What do you do when it's time to replace 'em?

Also, with all of the plumbing, etc, how do you get the lid back onto the battery box? Cut some additional holes?

(I use a hydro-cap on my Rolls batteries, does a lot to prevent loss of electrolyte),

Chuck
Mar 10
>serious problem, at least on a boat. What do you do when it's time to Wayne.B
Mar 10
The weight of hydrocaps is negligible, AFAIK. But I have to ask, will your remote watering system also measure specific gravity? KLC
Mar 10
What kind of a charger are you guys using when on shore power? The ferro-resonant types can really cause a lot of electrolyte loss. The dedicated batteries for the thrusters on my boat (Navigator) used to be tied to the old, FR charger and they were in need of water almost monthly. For other reasons ... I bought a dedicated, dual output, 3 stage "smart" charger for them and I now add a small amount of water once a year, if that. The batteries are always being maintained by the smart charger.

I still have 3 8Ds that are charged by the older charger and they require regular water replenishment. If I were going to keep the boat, I'd consider investing in a smart charger for them as well.

Might be worth considering on the GB, though.

Eisboch

Eisboch
Mar 10
One of the major reasons I used the Rolls 8D, (aside from a 10 year warranty wiht the first 7 not pro-rated) is that they are so super easy to install and replace. You never lift more than about 30 pounds at a whack, as you bolt 6 2-volt cells together inside a battery box. If your 8D's are in a tough spot, it's a lot easier to swap them out in 30-pound increments than making an awkward reach to try and lift a couple of hundred pounds of battery. Why put the chiropractor's seven kids through college? :-) Chuck
Mar 10
Somebody has to. Tom
Mar 11
   

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