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Remote Battery Filling System
Here's a product that I just stumbled across that may be of interest
to those with large battery banks that are difficult to access:http://www.batteryfillingsystems.com/default.asp?page=home I have no experience with this system but it was recommended by
someone on a boating EMAIL list that I subscribe to, and looks like it
might solve a problem on my boat. Basically it uses special replacement battery caps that are tied
together with plastic tubing and a remote filling device. Each cap
has a float valve which closes when the cell is full. They sell
different types of caps and floats depending on battery type. It is being marketed to industrial and golf cart users but I can't see
any reason why it wouldn't work on a boat. |
Wayne.B
Mar 10
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| >warranty wiht the first 7 not pro-rated) is that they are so super
>easy to install and replace. Rolls makes a great battery, no question. On the other hand the cost
of a Rolls 8D is somewhere north of $500 if my memory is correct. I
recently purchased a brand X 8D from NAPA auto parts for $160.
Assuming I get the usual 5 years from it, I'll be money ahead. |
Wayne.B
Mar 11
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| Yeah, but you will lose "dock prestige" if they ever discover the cheap
batteries after all that braggin' about only using the most expensive
batteries on earth in such a fine yacht....like the rest of them do.... Larry |
Larry
Mar 11
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| Boaters ask each other questions about what systems they use on their
boats -- happens in every marina, every day. If boater "A" says, "I use only
Optima batteries!" because they like them, and boater "B" says, "Good
enough, I prefer Rolls," is the Rolls owner bragging and expecting to gain
this mythical "dock prestige," or are they simply passing on information? Would you have Rolls owners remain silent about their batteries to avoid
appearing "snobbish," or would you have them lie, claiming instead that they
use Duracells? You can be a very silly person at times, you know? |
KLC
Mar 11
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| If you get five years from a bargain basement battery you're doing
really well. Rolls pencils out if you figure the more typical three years from a
generic battery. If you pay somebody to replace the battery for you,
or if you value the
time involved or put any value on avoiding the risk of physical injury
associated with "horsing" 150 pounds in what always turns out to be an
incorrect posture, the Rolls puts you money ahead. The warranty on
Rolls is 10 years, (vs 24-36 months for most Brand X), and life
expectancy is often several years beyond the end of the warranty. The other spiffy thing about the Rolls is that when most batteries
fail it's a failure in a single cell. With most batteries, you have to
junk all six cells bcause one has gone bad. With a Rolls, you simply
test the cells until you find the bad one, unbolt the bad cell from
the network, buy one new cell instead of six new cells, and forge
ahead. |
Chuck
Mar 11
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That, and after a long weekend at anchor somebody has to be able to
jump start the fleet of guys who think that cheaper is better. :-) |
Chuck
Mar 11
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| >really well. |
Wayne.B
Mar 11
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| How close is NAPA to that nice remote anchorage where the cheapy battery
fails? ;-) |
KLC
Mar 11
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| My boat has so much redundancy in critical systems that replacement
parts in a remote anchorage are an unlikely scenario. This particular
8D can be parallelled with a bank of 4 golf cart batts, which in turn
can be parallelled with with either a second set of golf carts or an
engine starting 8D. We had the raw water pump fail on our primary generator last year mid
way through a cruise of the Abaco out islands. After spending a
futile couple of hours trying to locate a new one, we continued on
using the backup generator. If both generators fail I can now
generate enough 12 volt amperage with the main engine alternators to
power a 2 KW inverter. That's enough to keep the holding plate
fridges and freezer cold, or do some light duty cooking. It would be
an act of hubris to rename the boat the M/V Unstoppable but it comes
as close as I know to make it. |
Wayne.B
Mar 11
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| The only complaint I have is the ridiculous cost for some molded
plastic |
jim.isbell
Mar 10
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| "Large battery banks that are difficult to access" sounds like a
serious problem, at least on a boat. What do you do when it's time to
replace 'em? Also, with all of the plumbing, etc, how do you get the lid back onto
the battery box? Cut some additional holes? (I use a hydro-cap on my Rolls batteries, does a lot to prevent loss
of electrolyte), |
Chuck
Mar 10
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| >serious problem, at least on a boat. What do you do when it's time to |
Wayne.B
Mar 10
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| The weight of hydrocaps is negligible, AFAIK. But I have to ask, will your
remote watering system also measure specific gravity? |
KLC
Mar 10
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| What kind of a charger are you guys using when on shore power?
The ferro-resonant types can really cause a lot of electrolyte loss.
The dedicated batteries for the thrusters on my boat (Navigator) used to be
tied to the old, FR charger and they were in need of water almost monthly.
For other reasons ... I bought a dedicated, dual output, 3 stage "smart"
charger for them and I now add a small amount of water once a year, if that.
The batteries are always being maintained by the smart charger. I still have 3 8Ds that are charged by the older charger and they require
regular water replenishment. If I were going to keep the boat, I'd consider
investing in a smart charger for them as well. Might be worth considering on the GB, though. Eisboch |
Eisboch
Mar 10
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| One of the major reasons I used the Rolls 8D, (aside from a 10 year
warranty wiht the first 7 not pro-rated) is that they are so super
easy to install and replace. You never lift more than about 30 pounds
at a whack, as you bolt 6 2-volt cells together inside a battery box.
If your 8D's are in a tough spot, it's a lot easier to swap them out
in 30-pound increments than making an awkward reach to try and lift a
couple of hundred pounds of battery. Why put the chiropractor's seven
kids through college? :-) |
Chuck
Mar 10
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| Somebody has to. |
Tom
Mar 11
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