Anybody on the water today?
Heading out in a hour or so to test a boat.Should be fun - repowered 23' Hydrasports CC - bolstered stern with
twin 250 Verados. A lot of work done on this boat - came from
Mississippi after Katrina. Haven't really wrung out a pair of Verados yet - should be fun. It
will be interesting to see how they compare to ETECs. I'm going into this with an "open" mind. ~~ snerk ~~ |
Short
May 5
|
| Hell no. If you dropped it off in my driveway with the title on the
front seat I'd have it towed away. |
Dan
May 8
|
| How's that vintage minivan working for you? |
Dan
May 7
|
| Why... you wanna buy it? |
Don
May 7
|
| From your site: "By perusing the latter, one finds that the top selling truck model in
Canada is the Ford F-Series pickup, with total sales of 72,128 units. That
beats the Civic’s number by 2,100 units." Whoops. Sounds like a reading comprehension problem to me. Maybe you should
stop with the bullshit accusations. You usually end up looking like a young
turd. |
John
May 7
|
| Johnny, Johnny, Johnny. You are quite a piece of work.
How do you impress the young high school students now that the Mustang is
gone? |
Don
May 7
|
| If the Corps would leave some water in Canyon Lake above the
conservation pool level, or let water out on the weekdays,
I'd be out there. Instead, they're trying to push 2k-5k CFS
down the local little lake that I like to go out on and thats
much too much water for a small channel. sam |
Sam
May 7
|
| I thought JohnH wanted to improve the tone of the NG and stop with the name
calling? Double standards? |
JimH
May 7
|
| In John's case, it's more like no standards.
He reasons that since he 'is the law', he's 'above the law'. |
Don
May 7
|
| Herring? Standards? Herring? |
HK
May 7
|
| Caught, huh? |
John
May 7
|
| Glad to see the Hazeltones all lined up head to butt! |
John
May 7
|
| By you?? Not likely!
You'd better keep your day job of panhandling. |
Don
May 7
|
| The Democratic Congress did not establish a secret energy policy with
the nation's drillers, importers, refiners, et cetera. Dick Cheney,
acting on behalf of the oil interests, did. |
HK
May 6
|
| How do you know the Democrats in Congress did not establish a secret
energy policy with big oil to increase the price of oil? |
BAR
May 6
|
| How do you know they both didn't? Makes sense - the oil companies got what they wanted and the enviros
(aka Democrats) got what they wanted. Eventually, oil use has to drop
becaues of price. The real problem is the trading pits. The information flow is now
instant - somebody sneezes in Nigeria or Saudi Arabia and five seconds
later, it's headline news. There isn't enough time to adjust - you
have to instantly react to the news and "do something". And when you add in the fact that there are only so many refiners that
can produce only so much fuel the price goes up. One refinery
sneezing makes the market move instantly - resulting in instant price
changes at the pump - justified or not. Consider this. Two months ago, gas was at $2.34/g at a local
retailer. Today, it's $3.15/g at that same retailer. What's changed?
The supply is adequate, nobody is sitting in long gas lines -
essentially nothing has changed. What has changed is expectations. There are worries about July and
August supply problems which are reflected in today's prices. It's an
any excuse market in which any news that reflects negatively in any
fashion pushes the price up. Can't do anything about it because that's how the markets work. Here in CT, we have "zone" pricing - which basically says that gas
pricing is done by "zones". In theory, the more affulent parts of the
state pay more than the less affluent. That doesn't work. Gas is
cheaper in Greenwich, for example, that it is in Putnam which is
economically disadvantaged. Can't do anything about it because our
brilliant Attorney General, Democrat Richard Blumenthal, claims that
this is only a temporary effect - it's been temporary for the past ten
years. Both the politicians and the suppliers are letting the good times roll
because (1) the politicians (D/R) are in the pockets of the oil
companies and refiners and (2) the oil companies are rolling in cash
because of the good prices. As usual the little guy is getting it right up the patootie. CT is
considering an increase in the gas tax of .06˘/g - and they are
serious about it. They also want to change the current tax structure
to a base level of where it is now (plus the .06˘) and add a
percentage of 10% "surcharge" usage fee on top to pay for some I-95
project in New Haven. They claim that the 10% fee will go away once
the project is paid for. HAH!! ~~ mutter ~~ Rant off. :>) |
Short
May 6
|
|
The real problem is that the White House has no compunction about
allowing Big Oil to perpetrate and perpetuate as big a ripoff of the
consumers as possible. President Idiot just doesn't give a damn.
Remember, he's the same guy who thinks it is a great idea to export as
many US manufacturing jobs as possible, and to allow in as many illegals
as possible, in order to drive down the wages of US workers. |
HK
May 6
|
| following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |
Gene
May 6
|
| Just wear a windbreaker jacket and put your ballcap on backwards. "Hurricane force wind warning
N wall of Gulf Stream near 33.3n 76.7w...33.7n 76.6w...35n 75.3w" Eisboch |
Eisboch
May 6
|
| and put your ballcap on backwards.
Eisboch You mean with the visor in the front!, no way maaaaannn ;) Anyway, it's a full brim for me. |
justwaitafreki...
May 6
|
| Friday and Saturday were beautiful days down on the boat. I am still on it
today, but it's cold, overcast with occasional downpours and the wind is
blowing pretty hard. Glad the heat works. Eisboch |
Eisboch
May 6
|
| Here it is warm, but really windy. Most of the guys who went out for
rockcod or salmon were chased off the water by the winds. |
Calif
May 6
|
| I don't recall any bills introduced by the Democrat controlled Congress
which would change anything, Harry. They introduced a pot full of other ridiculous bills, but none attempting
to stop the 'ripoff'. Just think how much more enjoyable boating would be
if they *did* something! |
John
May 6
|
| Here the temp has yet to break 60F, but the winds have many times broke 25
mph. Here's what NOAA says: ANZ530>532-070215-
/O.CAN.KLWX.GL.W.0012.000000T0000Z-070506T1900Z/
/O.EXT.KLWX.SC.Y.0058.070506T1451Z-070507T0200Z/
CHESAPEAKE BAY NORTH OF POOLES ISLAND-
CHESAPEAKE BAY FROM POOLES ISLAND TO SANDY POINT-
CHESAPEAKE BAY FROM SANDY POINT TO NORTH BEACH-
1051 AM EDT SUN MAY 6 2007 SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY NOW IN EFFECT UNTIL 10 PM EDT THIS EVENING THIS AFTERNOON
NE WINDS 20 KT WITH GUSTS UP TO 30 KT. WAVES 3 FT. TONIGHT
NE WINDS 20 KT WITH GUSTS UP TO 25 KT. WAVES 3 FT. No, I didn't go out, but I did see a bunch of people braving the weather to
play golf! |
John
May 6
|
| yeah..and that's why we all pay so much for gas
....you loony 'mericans and your never ending thirst for more power. |
Don
May 6
|
| Did they get their hair ruffled.
Imagine..braving a golf course in 20 knot winds. |
Don
May 6
|
| BOOYA!!! MORE POWER!!! |
Short
May 6
|
| Pansy. When I was a kid, we used to row out to Cat Island in our 8 foot
Butler prams in weather like that. Uphill. Both ways. Kids today - honest to pete. |
Short
May 6
|
| Hell - no jacket. Real men don't wear jackets in weather like that. Pansies... |
Short
May 6
|
| Backwards ball caps drive me nuts - I can't explain it. And those kids who wear the brims flat as a pancake. Damn kids... >Anyway, it's a full brim for me. I generally wear drover's hats with a full brim, but working around
the house, it's a ball cap for me. |
Short
May 6
|
| Pull that for sale sign off it yet? |
Short
May 6
|
| Pansies. |
Short
May 6
|
| Golfers should be rounded up and shot. |
Short
May 6
|
| Yes, and they saw their balls do some unexpected flight patterns. |
John
May 6
|
| Canadians don't have big boats or cars with big engines. Right! |
John
May 6
|
| And your being driven nuts is exactly why they do it! |
John
May 6
|
| Be more fun to shoot 'em as they go by. More 'sporting', if you know what I
mean. |
John
May 6
|
| Pretty windy here today also. With a NE wind coming off a 45 degree Lake it
was pretty chilly, even with a blue sky. Old sweatshirt and old, old, old jeans for me today as I painted the bottom
of the boat. The folks at the new marina seem pretty nice, including the
owners. Spent too much time talking with friends at the marina to get much
work done besides the bottom paint. |
JimH
May 6
|
| A bunch of 12-14 year old kids (boys) were in line ahead of me at the
grocery store this afternoon. Being normal kids of that age they were
yuk-ing it up and grab assing. One was holding his designer ball cap in his hand and was complaining that
it didn't fit right anymore since his mother had made him get a haircut. He
was still complaining as he plopped the hat back on his head ... sideways
with the bill pointing out over his left ear. What's with that, anyway? Eisboch |
Eisboch
May 6
|
| Backwards isn't near as cool as sideways. They probably had on pants that
were four sizes too big that had to be held up with one hand. I've *no*
idea why they do that! |
John
May 6
|
| Don,
What would you do if you couldn't blame all of your misfortunes on
Americans? |
Reginald
May 6
|
| Pure bullshit and not a single fact in the paragraph. A typical
response from Hank, I guess. |
Dan
May 6
|
| \ Most of us don't. The best selling car in Canada for a number of years has
been the Honda Civic
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jc/compact2.htm
http://en.autos.sympatico.msn.ca/guides_and_advice/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4676756 |
Don
May 6
|
| That is what happens in the 19th hole. Lots of shots. |
Calif
May 7
|
| It is the bad dude look. Comes from youth jail. They take the belt away so
they are less inclined to kill themselves. So that is the jail look. |
Calif
May 7
|
| Yee Haw! Be careful out there. |
Jim
May 5
|
| 500 hp on a 23' fishing boat?
Lunacy. |
HK
May 5
|
| Not on it, but in it. It's a trout stream day. If any of you can get here by
around 2:00 with a video camera, you can probably win yourself a bunch of
money from the America's Funniest Home Videos TV show. This is my annual
"how does this fly rod work again?" day. The fish are helpful. The stream's
got loads of trout, but they send their friends, the pike, to mess with
fishermen. |
JoeSpareBedroom
May 5
|
| You wearing thermal waders? I have an exciting day: my wife wants to buy a "fountain" for the
garden, to take advantage of the fact that I have an electrician coming
next week to do some wiring for my kitchenette. I think she thinks I am
more than willing to dig the 50' long, two foot deep trench it will take
to bury the wire. Right. First thing, I'll call the rental store for a
Ditch Witch. Outdoor "house voltage" wiring is a mystery to me. Can it be tapped off
an existing outdoor plug, or will it have to go to the panel? I will get to the Greek festival this weekend. Dammit. |
HK
May 5
|
| No - thermal underwear under sweat pants, and heavy socks. |
JoeSpareBedroom
May 5
|
| Sorta depends on how much power the fountain pump requires. Is it 120v or
220v?
Around here, the "ditch" is supposed to be 18" deep minimum. If it's a light duty, 120v pump only drawing a few amps, I'd use direct
burial wire, #10 (due to the length) and tie it through an outdoor switch or
timer to a GFI protected outlet. Eisboch |
Eisboch
May 5
|
| Ahh...direct burial wire...that's what she can use to tie up my casket
after I dig the ditch! 18" sure ought to work here, since our freeze is
a lot less than your freeze. I have an exterior GFI outlet...is it safe
to assume an electrician can wire an outdoor timer to it? As you might
guess, I don't "do" electricity. |
HK
May 5
|
| BTW .... all above is assuming the existing outlet is on a 15 amp breaker. Eisboch (not an electrician) |
Eisboch
May 5
|
| Yes. But then again, that's me. The electrician might have other thoughts
or be more knowledgeable regarding your local codes. I have a good
understanding of electrical issues, but don't always follow "code"
precisely. Eisboch |
Eisboch
May 5
|
| Nothing to do with freeze depths. It's to avoid driving a horseshoe stake
into the wire. Eisboch |
Eisboch
May 5
|
| Code varys wildly with locality as to the accepted depth so find out before
you dig. Many allow a shallower depth if you put wire in that gray plastic
conduit. |
jamesgangnc
May 5
|
| Either direct burial or wire in conduit will work here in Missouri, but must
be 36" deep. This is a safety thing, since our freeze level rarely
approaches 12". CATV= 18" min (6" house drop)
Phone & Gas = 24" min (12" house drop phone, 24" gas)
Water= 36" min (always 36")
Power= 36" min (always 36", risers in conduit) I would follow code. There's always a possibility that a shallow A/C wire
could come back to bite you if someone else digs into it. |
Steven
May 5
|
| one thing... 14 ga can handle 15 amps, and a 50ft run is not far
considering how long most cable runs can be in a house. The pump will
likely only draw a few amps, so that makes the guage requirement even
less of a concern. You'll be more than fine with 14, use 12 if you want. 10 would be WAY
overkill unless you're planning to rival the Bellagio. |
Jack
May 5
|
| Let me put my electrical inspector hat on (fl lic BN2102) Barring a local rule (none in Florida the "NEC" is code, state wide)
The NEC 300.5 says direct buiral cable (UF) shall be 24", Rigid
non-metalic conduit (the grey stuff) shall be 18" and rigid metal
conduit (threaded steel) shall be 6" minimum depth.
There is an accomedation for residential, 15 or 20a, 120v, GFCI
protected that says it can be 12" and that includes rigid nonmetalic
and direct burial cable. Rules change when you go under the driveway
or a public street.
I agree that unless this is more than a 1/2 HP pump this can share the
regular GFCI outside outlet circuit and 14ga should be fine (assuming
15a circuit) Most small fountain pumps are smaller than that. |
gfretwell
May 5
|
| I've learned my lesson having been married for 37 years. That small pump
today won't be big enough in a year or two. So, I always run bigger rather
than smaller, just in case. <g> Eisboch |
Eisboch
May 5
|
| True. More would be better. A little underpowered for some people. |
Calif
May 5
|
| Not me. This week it's been too rainy, with pop up showers pouring
with no real given notice. Plus, I have a bit more prep work to do. |
Tim
May 5
|
| Thanks. I'll follow the electrician's directions for the ditch. Took
three guys to get the damned fountain in my vehicle, and of course there
was only one at this end to get it out. One of the pieces weighed 265
pounds. No handles. |
HK
May 5
|
| Hope you had a good time. Ours is sitting in my drive with the winter cover
off and the batteries charging. Will take it to the marina tomorrow to
start working on it. Used our Fuel Perks points (30 gallons max) and filled up my wife's
Highlander (16 gallons), put 10 gallons in the boat topping it off and the
remaining 4 gallons in a gas can. All for the price of a little over $5. http://www.gianteagle.com/main/article7.jsp?CONTENT%3C%3Ecnt_id=1127885&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1127873 |
JimH
May 5
|
| I paid $2.87 a gallon earlier today in Waldorf, MD, at a WaWa. As the
meter ran, I genuflected in the direction of Dicque Cheney. |
HK
May 5
|
| Do you think the price of gas would fall if the Democrats took power? That
would sure make boating much cheaper! |
John
May 5
|
| Street price here today was $3.09/gallon, down from $3.19 yesterday but way
up from the $2.65 it was less than a week ago. |
JimH
May 5
|
| <insert evil laugh> Sounds like fun! I spent all day today on the water, first splash of the season. Opening
day here in Seattle, donchya know. I don't know how I managed it, but I
almost got a sunburn on my face (only exposed skin). :) |
Garth
May 5
|
| The Democrats already took control of Congress on January 4th. Average price of regular grade gas on January 8th: $2.258 Average price of regular grade gas on April 30th: $2.922 That's a nice 29.4% increase...in just under 4 months. Even Cheney's
gas-manipulation powers can't compare to that of the evil Demoncrats. |
NOYB
May 6
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