Zone Alarm
Hey Harry, was that you on the ZA forum on 5/16 saying the Vista beta
is s-l-o-w.
I was wondering if I should try it.
I am a long time za user and have prolly 8 months left on my ZA Pro
subscription.
I wish they could get it working.
However they are not the only one with vista probs.
Nvidia doesn't have a good driver for my $600 8800GTX.Regards, BTW, sold my Luhrs 320T, currently boatless. Got grandkids now and no
time for a boat on the coast. I'm looking at trailer boats. |
ecr111
May 27
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| Indeed it was. I was using ZA with my XP setup, and it worked well there. When I went
to VISTA, I thought I'd give the ZA Vista beta a good workout, but I was
offput by its slowness at boot up and the delays in opening programs,
plus the seemingly endless crashes of the beta (but not VISTA). So I
tried a few other suites this past week, including those from AVG, et
cetera, and right now am playing around with Kaspersky's suite. I'm
using the 6.0 version that works with VISTA, not the "7" beta. So far it
seems to be working just fine. It's fast, the updates work well, and it
has a reasonable interface. There's a 30-day free trial. I got an agreement out of ZA to extend my paid subscription by six
months or until six months after the release of the ZA retail for VISTA.
When the retail version comes out, I'll look it over. |
HK
May 27
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| Does these other suites include a firewall which also:
****CONTROLS OUTBOUND ACTIVITY*****??? |
JoeSpareBedroom
May 27
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| It does look like Vista is more trouble than it is worth. This is the
reason why some mfg'ers are now offering XP on their new machines. |
Reginald
May 27
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| Ahh. Yes, both the ZA beta and the Kaspersky release version do. For
some strange reason, the firewall MS packed in with VISTA does not.
Weird, eh? |
HK
May 27
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| Not that weird. Some products are sold because somebody will buy them, not
because there's anything compelling about them. |
JoeSpareBedroom
May 28
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| Why not use a hardware firewall? |
D.Duck
May 27
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| Ahh. Well, I have no regrets about leaving XP behind. I've been running
VISTA for months now, without one serious glitch. I have a lot of
hardware connected up, and tons of software, too, most of it holdovers
from XP or even Win2k. It all works. I've read about a lot of the problems some others are having. The
majority seem to be related to users who install VISTA over an existing
earlier MS OS, now with those who did a clean install. |
HK
May 27
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| Why not use both? |
JimH
May 27
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| In my experience being on the Internet for over 20 years I have never run a
software firewall. Always used a good anti-virus program. Since having my
home PCs networked I have of course had the protection of it's firewall. Knock on wood I have never had a virus or any other type of unwanted
intrusion. I religiously run Spy-Bot and HiJack This. Again never found anything
nefarious. |
D.Duck
May 27
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| And yet, MS could not find a reason to equip the OS with a correctly
designed firewall. There is no debate that if a firewall does not protect
against outbound nonsense, it is junk. |
JoeSpareBedroom
May 28
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| Yep, I'm dual booted.
I like Vista and have not had serious problems except for nVidia
drivers. I use windows firewall while waiting for ZA.
I play graphic intensive games on XP while waiting for the latest
Vista drivers and trying all betas for my 8800GTX.
That doesn't solve the spyware problem with Vista though. |
Clay
May 27
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| The ZA outbound activity checks are part of what I consider normal
firewall security. So I guess you were talking about there not being
a "compelling" security reason to get Vista.
You'd a thunk such security would come with a ballyhooed new OS.
So I agree with Harry that it's weird. No. Shocking. --Vic |
Vic
May 27
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| I am the type of guy who wears suspenders and a belt. |
JimH
May 27
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| Yup, that is very true. ZA was just one reason I don't have Vista. I have 5
license keys for Vista installs from beta testing, and haven't used a single
one. I probably won't until SP1 or 2. :-> Harry is right in that most problems seem to come from upgrade installs, and
that is the path I would most likely take on my machines. This is to
reminiscent of Windows Me. I'll wait, even though I used it for almost 2
years on one machine. BTW, that machine is now XP again. --Mike |
Mike
May 27
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| Yes, especially considering that outbound antics are the trademark of some
of the worst computer threats. I think some of MS' products are works of
art, and examples of magnificent programming (Excel, for instance), but in
the area of security, the company is truly pathetic. |
JoeSpareBedroom
May 28
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| Agreed! --Mike |
Mike
May 27
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| I believe outbound filtering is turned off by default, but it's there if
you are willing to jump through Billy's hoops. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/columns/cableguy/cg0106.mspx |
thunder
May 28
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| That's a lotta work and it seems to presuppose you know which ports and
services every "outbound" wants. It's surprising MS simply didn't
license an in/out firewall. Well, as I mentioned, the Kaspersky internet
security suite covers that ground, and it has a decent interface. |
HK
May 28
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