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Just said no! Ct. DEP, OK with me...

So I got out to the lake late yesterday. Sitting in the parking lot I was getting my stuff ready and watching another guy getting his inspection from the DEP. As I was driving by I waved. The Officer asked me if I wanted an inspection, I told him it was late, if there was anything in particular he wanted to look at OK, but I would rather get out to the water. He was nice and said he would check me next time.

Personally I support the Ct. DEP. In a nutshell. When I was young I lived near a nice river, but it was so polluted the water often ran red and other weird colors, there were mills upstream. Now it is a trout stream. You could not even swim in the Ct. River, now you can even eat some of the fish. You could not fish Stripers, Salmon are returning, and there are plenty of Trout and other fish for everyone, maybe more than when I was young and of course the pressure on the fish is huge compared to back then. Last season I had a guy pull me over on Crystal Lake in Stafford. He was doing a survey about Trout fishing, they wanted to know how fishermen felt about closing the Trout season during the hot months to take some of the pressure off of the population. I felt that if that's what they had to do, they had a good track record with me.

Anyway, it was the first time I ever said no. It felt kind of funny but I find with the big wooden skiff, no one pays much attention to me anyway. Oh, I still get pulled over and met at the dock, but they just want to look at the boat and that's cool.

Jul 9
Except that he did not have to take a course and was never required to learn to check his water heater to use hot water. You on the other hand should know weather or not the governing police force on the water can board your boat. It was a far fetched, lousy analegy, that's probably why I did not get it.
Jul 10
Not knowing that rule bears absolutely no relationship to safe boating, unless:

- You suggest that I may have forgotten lots of other things from the course I took, which is unlikely since I constantly practice what I learned. or - You suggest (correctly) that handcuffs can be painful, and therefore a safety issue. But, that would be a stretch.

JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 10
I just don't understand this Michael Moore stuff. Libs know he lies even more that Billary, and still suck right up to him as if he had actually done some research, stated some facts, or had some talent.
Jul 10
Perhaps. But, when he walks right up to a government official with a video camera, and that official says something, do you believe the video has somehow been doctored? Or, do you believe you are really seeing the official say things you may not like?

You with me on this? Moore asks a question. Official answers the question. Is Moore lying, or are you seeing what you think you're seeing?

JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 10
You practice what you learned? What about all the stuff you missed?
Jul 10
Suggest something you think I've missed. You're pretty insistent that I've missed something. Give me an example. JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 10
Nobody did..except Doug (are you surprised?).

When you see a Kanter thread growing past 2 replies grab a bowl of popcorn and enjoy his show......just don't get caught up in it. ;-)

JimH
Jul 10
SNIP THE GD POST!!!

Damn...

Rogue
Jul 10
Weather or not the governing force on the water... Oh well, going fishing, buh-bye;)
Jul 10
You don't need to swear? And what's the big deal, do you pay by the letter?
Jul 10
The CTRL-END key combo is foreign to some newbies, I guess. JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 10
Ahhh, but how's your prostate? D.Duck
Jul 10
That's fine too. :>) Short
Jul 11
OK, now what was your frekin' point!?
Jul 10
Perfect analogy:

He can't tell us the water temperature. Therefore, he is not qualified to operate any plumbing device or appliance which uses hot water.

JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 10
To get out of the box into which he'd been driven by changing the subject. Where've you been? That's his MO. John
Jul 10
No, John. This is the reality of the situation: Some people can survive in a discussion involving multiple ideas simultaneously. Some people can see connections between apparently unrelated concepts. If you ever had these skills to start with, you've lost them. But, practice helps. I know two people who are pushing 90 years old, but their mental acuity makes you seem like a frog that's been pithed prior to dissection. JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 10
Not knowing the water temperature of you hot water tank will not land you in jail.

Not allowing the CG onto your boat will because you think they need a search warrant will.

Yes Doug, perfect analogy. <shakes head and walks away>

JimH
Jul 10
Perhaps, but not knowing that the CG needs no warrant in no way means someone is an usafe boater. You know that. You'll argue the point anyway, but who cares? JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 10
Shouldn't you be out selling dishwater liquid or something? :>) Short
Jul 10
I will argue nothing with you.I am not into fighting windmills. JimH
Jul 10
Can you use 1400 cases of Prego pasta sauce? Nice fresh product, delivers late next week. Twelve 26oz jars per case. $17.00 per case. $23,800.00. You can swing that. JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 10
What's to argue?

Do you know the legal cargo weight limit of the next container ship you happen to see a picture of? If you don't know that rule, does it reflect on your skill as a pilot of your own boat? Of course not.

JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 10
I can swing it - what the hell would I do with it?

And no, I'm not going to open a pizza shop. Or an Italian Resturant. :>)

Short
Jul 10
Sometimes we can split a truck between two customers if the routing works out. I'll let you know. Of course, you'll need a half truck of assorted pasta to go with it. JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 10
What part of no pizza shop and no Italian resturant didn't you understand? Short
Jul 10
I saw that. But, you're forgetting how good lycopene is for youse prostrate. JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 10
Prego is the worst stuff made. I'd rather put peanut butter on my pasta. John
Jul 10
LOL! Truth hurts, huh? John
Jul 10
My prostrate is just fine thank you very much. Short
Jul 10
ROTFL!!! Short
Jul 10
"They want us to connect the dots, but they do not want us to collect the dots. The dots should apparently just walk up and volunteer, 'Here I am. I'm a dot!'"

James Lileks - 2006.

Short
Jul 10
Speaking of Prego, Michael Moore is on CNN today getting apoplectic (sp?) because Blitzer found some fault with his movie. Fun to watch! John
Jul 10
What about CG inspections? Are we legally required to let them board? The cops need a warrant to search your home. I wonder if the CG has its own special set of rules. JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 9
Joe, Yes they do. Reginald
Jul 9
Same here. A few years back one of them offered my an inspection sticker even though he did not inspect my boat. I made a call to the USCG office the next day to report the jerk. JimH
Jul 9
Another example of why even long time boaters need to take a safe boating course and pass a test. The answer to this is REALLY basic. If you don't know, you should not be operating a boat. anyone
Jul 9
That's such a silly thing to say. Really. It is. JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 9
When they arrest you for hesitating, questioning them, or resisting in any small way, you'll think otherwise. These days, they usually have little patience for nitwits. That makes you a marked man, apparently. anyone
Jul 9
I assumed you were asking a rhetorical question. If you really do not know the answer, you really should take a basic PS or USCG AUX course. Reginald
Jul 9
You don't need to sit through hours of courses to learn one rule.

As far as your sudden burst of name calling, you should explore your problem further. Although I doubt you do it with people standing in front of you, you may slip one day.

JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 9
I think it's quite safe to assume that if you don't know that one rule, there are no doubt a lot of other things about the safe and legal operation of a boat you don't know. You don't seem to even know enough to realize how much you don't know. You are prime candidate to take an introductory safe boating course. anyone
Jul 9
Gee....ya think? Nothing like a blinding flash of the obvious. I asked about the rule, so obviously I did not know it.

You with me so far?

As far as safety, I've was handling a 47 foot boat quite nicely when I was 16 years old. Took all the courses, etc etc. My current boat was boarded a couple of years ago, and I was given a ticket for not having a piece of equipment NOT required by the CG. I ended up helping some young guy learn the rules, with the help of his CO.

JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 9
Somehow, you've completely failed to convince me of your competence. If a newcomer to this group were to ask the same basic question you asked, there would have been 20 responses advising you that you need to take a safe boating course. My advice that you seriously need to take a safety course stands, and your "know-it all" responses only re-inforce that opinion. anyone
Jul 9
Why do I need to convince YOU?

Within 1/2 a degree Fahrenheit, what is the temperature of the water in your water heater RIGHT NOW? Not last time you checked it, but RIGHT NOW.

JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 9
I don't know, but you seem to have made it a high priority. So far, you might have convinced yourself, but that's about it. And even that would require a fair amount of intellectual dishonesty on your part. anyone
Jul 9
You didn't respond to my question about water temperature. Could you please do so in your next message? JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 9
Then what Joe? What if he said he could not tell you to a degree what the temp is in his tank, what does that prove? I guess I am a little slow today!
Jul 9
It's rude to second guess people, so let's wait until this time tomorrow and see if he answers the question. Then, I'll explain why I asked. JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 9
Bored again huh?

Jeezum pete Doug - get a life. :>)

By the way, not to take this off topic off topic, but do you read novels much at all - scifi/fantasy type stuff?

Short
Jul 9
What else am I supposed to do when I'm on hold, waiting for one of my JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 9
Ah - good point. Short
Jul 9
Yeah...I'm a very serious person. Next stop: One of Daniel Patrick Moynihan's books. JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 9
Just type a chapter a night in here.... we all could use a little light reading before bedtime. Don
Jul 9
Give...what's the series, and how did the motorcycle course go, and what did you learn about countersteering? John
Jul 9
Nice spin and yet more proof the lobster boat was a narcissistic fantasy. Dan
Jul 10
I don't mind inspections by officials, since I have nada to hide on my boats, and I'm always hopeful they'll catch poachers. I don't let the Power Squadron yahoos aboard for a "courtesy" look-see, though. HK
Jul 9
Now that you've sold the Parker, what types of "boats" do you still own?
Jul 9
I haven't sold her yet. The guy I had lined up was turned down by his bank and his credit union, so we returned his deposit. I do have two "potentials" I've talked to once or twice. Had another guy who was just a "tire-kicker." HK
Jul 9
Harry, Is it possible that the boat is over priced and the bank is requiring such a large down payment, that anyone would have trouble getting a loan?

When you sell this boat, do you plan on being boatless for the rest of the season?

Reginald
Jul 9
   

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