Just said no! Ct. DEP, OK with me...
So I got out to the lake late yesterday. Sitting in the parking lot I
was getting my stuff ready and watching another guy getting his
inspection from the DEP. As I was driving by I waved. The Officer
asked me if I wanted an inspection, I told him it was late, if there
was anything in particular he wanted to look at OK, but I would rather
get out to the water. He was nice and said he would check me next
time.Personally I support the Ct. DEP. In a nutshell. When I was young I
lived near a nice river, but it was so polluted the water often ran
red and other weird colors, there were mills upstream. Now it is a
trout stream. You could not even swim in the Ct. River, now you can
even eat some of the fish. You could not fish Stripers, Salmon are
returning, and there are plenty of Trout and other fish for everyone,
maybe more than when I was young and of course the pressure on the
fish is huge compared to back then. Last season I had a guy pull me
over on Crystal Lake in Stafford. He was doing a survey about Trout
fishing, they wanted to know how fishermen felt about closing the
Trout season during the hot months to take some of the pressure off of
the population. I felt that if that's what they had to do, they had a
good track record with me. Anyway, it was the first time I ever said no. It felt kind of funny
but I find with the big wooden skiff, no one pays much attention to me
anyway. Oh, I still get pulled over and met at the dock, but they just
want to look at the boat and that's cool. |
Jul 9
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| Except that he did not have to take a course and was never required to
learn to check his water heater to use hot water. You on the other
hand should know weather or not the governing police force on the
water can board your boat. It was a far fetched, lousy analegy, that's
probably why I did not get it. |
Jul 10
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| Not knowing that rule bears absolutely no relationship to safe boating,
unless: - You suggest that I may have forgotten lots of other things from the course
I took, which is unlikely since I constantly practice what I learned.
or
- You suggest (correctly) that handcuffs can be painful, and therefore a
safety issue. But, that would be a stretch. |
JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 10
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| I just don't understand this Michael Moore stuff. Libs know he lies
even more that Billary, and still suck right up to him as if he had
actually done some research, stated some facts, or had some talent. |
Jul 10
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| Perhaps. But, when he walks right up to a government official with a video
camera, and that official says something, do you believe the video has
somehow been doctored? Or, do you believe you are really seeing the official
say things you may not like? You with me on this? Moore asks a question. Official answers the question.
Is Moore lying, or are you seeing what you think you're seeing? |
JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 10
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| You practice what you learned? What about all the stuff you missed? |
Jul 10
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| Suggest something you think I've missed. You're pretty insistent that I've
missed something. Give me an example. |
JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 10
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| Nobody did..except Doug (are you surprised?). When you see a Kanter thread growing past 2 replies grab a bowl of popcorn
and enjoy his show......just don't get caught up in it. ;-) |
JimH
Jul 10
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| SNIP THE GD POST!!! Damn... |
Rogue
Jul 10
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| Weather or not the governing force on the water... Oh well, going
fishing, buh-bye;) |
Jul 10
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| You don't need to swear? And what's the big deal, do you pay by the
letter? |
Jul 10
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| The CTRL-END key combo is foreign to some newbies, I guess. |
JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 10
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| Ahhh, but how's your prostate? |
D.Duck
Jul 10
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| That's fine too. :>) |
Short
Jul 11
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| OK, now what was your frekin' point!? |
Jul 10
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| Perfect analogy: He can't tell us the water temperature. Therefore, he is not qualified to
operate any plumbing device or appliance which uses hot water. |
JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 10
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| To get out of the box into which he'd been driven by changing the subject.
Where've you been? That's his MO. |
John
Jul 10
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| No, John. This is the reality of the situation: Some people can survive in a
discussion involving multiple ideas simultaneously. Some people can see
connections between apparently unrelated concepts. If you ever had these
skills to start with, you've lost them. But, practice helps. I know two
people who are pushing 90 years old, but their mental acuity makes you seem
like a frog that's been pithed prior to dissection. |
JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 10
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| Not knowing the water temperature of you hot water tank will not land you in
jail. Not allowing the CG onto your boat will because you think they need a search
warrant will. Yes Doug, perfect analogy. <shakes head and walks away> |
JimH
Jul 10
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| Perhaps, but not knowing that the CG needs no warrant in no way means
someone is an usafe boater. You know that. You'll argue the point anyway,
but who cares? |
JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 10
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| Shouldn't you be out selling dishwater liquid or something? :>) |
Short
Jul 10
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| I will argue nothing with you.I am not into fighting windmills. |
JimH
Jul 10
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| Can you use 1400 cases of Prego pasta sauce? Nice fresh product, delivers
late next week. Twelve 26oz jars per case. $17.00 per case. $23,800.00. You
can swing that. |
JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 10
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| What's to argue? Do you know the legal cargo weight limit of the next container ship you
happen to see a picture of? If you don't know that rule, does it reflect on
your skill as a pilot of your own boat? Of course not. |
JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 10
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| I can swing it - what the hell would I do with it? And no, I'm not going to open a pizza shop. Or an Italian Resturant. :>) |
Short
Jul 10
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| Sometimes we can split a truck between two customers if the routing works
out. I'll let you know. Of course, you'll need a half truck of assorted
pasta to go with it. |
JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 10
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| What part of no pizza shop and no Italian resturant didn't you
understand? |
Short
Jul 10
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| I saw that. But, you're forgetting how good lycopene is for youse prostrate. |
JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 10
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| Prego is the worst stuff made. I'd rather put peanut butter on my pasta. |
John
Jul 10
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| LOL! Truth hurts, huh? |
John
Jul 10
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| My prostrate is just fine thank you very much. |
Short
Jul 10
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| ROTFL!!! |
Short
Jul 10
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| "They want us to connect the dots, but they do not want us to collect
the dots. The dots should apparently just walk up and volunteer, 'Here
I am. I'm a dot!'" James Lileks - 2006. |
Short
Jul 10
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| Speaking of Prego, Michael Moore is on CNN today getting apoplectic (sp?)
because Blitzer found some fault with his movie. Fun to watch! |
John
Jul 10
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| What about CG inspections? Are we legally required to let them board? The
cops need a warrant to search your home. I wonder if the CG has its own
special set of rules. |
JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 9
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| Joe,
Yes they do. |
Reginald
Jul 9
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| Same here. A few years back one of them offered my an inspection sticker
even though he did not inspect my boat. I made a call to the USCG office
the next day to report the jerk. |
JimH
Jul 9
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| Another example of why even long time boaters need to take a safe
boating course and pass a test. The answer to this is REALLY basic.
If you don't know, you should not be operating a boat. |
anyone
Jul 9
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| That's such a silly thing to say. Really. It is. |
JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 9
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| When they arrest you for hesitating, questioning them, or resisting in
any small way, you'll think otherwise. These days, they usually have
little patience for nitwits. That makes you a marked man, apparently. |
anyone
Jul 9
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| I assumed you were asking a rhetorical question. If you really do not
know the answer, you really should take a basic PS or USCG AUX course. |
Reginald
Jul 9
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| You don't need to sit through hours of courses to learn one rule. As far as your sudden burst of name calling, you should explore your problem
further. Although I doubt you do it with people standing in front of you,
you may slip one day. |
JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 9
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| I think it's quite safe to assume that if you don't know that one
rule, there are no doubt a lot of other things about the safe and
legal operation of a boat you don't know. You don't seem to even know
enough to realize how much you don't know. You are prime candidate to
take an introductory safe boating course. |
anyone
Jul 9
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| Gee....ya think? Nothing like a blinding flash of the obvious. I asked about
the rule, so obviously I did not know it. You with me so far? As far as safety, I've was handling a 47 foot boat quite nicely when I was
16 years old. Took all the courses, etc etc. My current boat was boarded a
couple of years ago, and I was given a ticket for not having a piece of
equipment NOT required by the CG. I ended up helping some young guy learn
the rules, with the help of his CO. |
JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 9
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| Somehow, you've completely failed to convince me of your competence.
If a newcomer to this group were to ask the same basic question you
asked, there would have been 20 responses advising you that you need
to take a safe boating course. My advice that you seriously need to
take a safety course stands, and your "know-it all" responses only
re-inforce that opinion. |
anyone
Jul 9
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| Why do I need to convince YOU? Within 1/2 a degree Fahrenheit, what is the temperature of the water in your
water heater RIGHT NOW? Not last time you checked it, but RIGHT NOW. |
JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 9
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| I don't know, but you seem to have made it a high priority. So far,
you might have convinced yourself, but that's about it. And even that
would require a fair amount of intellectual dishonesty on your part. |
anyone
Jul 9
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| You didn't respond to my question about water temperature. Could you please
do so in your next message? |
JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 9
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| Then what Joe? What if he said he could not tell you to a degree what
the temp is in his tank, what does that prove? I guess I am a little
slow today! |
Jul 9
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| It's rude to second guess people, so let's wait until this time tomorrow and
see if he answers the question. Then, I'll explain why I asked. |
JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 9
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| Bored again huh? Jeezum pete Doug - get a life. :>) By the way, not to take this off topic off topic, but do you read
novels much at all - scifi/fantasy type stuff? |
Short
Jul 9
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| What else am I supposed to do when I'm on hold, waiting for one of my |
JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 9
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| Ah - good point. |
Short
Jul 9
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| Yeah...I'm a very serious person. Next stop: One of Daniel Patrick
Moynihan's books. |
JoeSpareBedroom
Jul 9
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| Just type a chapter a night in here.... we all could use a little light
reading before bedtime. |
Don
Jul 9
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| Give...what's the series, and how did the motorcycle course go, and what
did you learn about countersteering? |
John
Jul 9
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| Nice spin and yet more proof the lobster boat was a narcissistic fantasy. |
Dan
Jul 10
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| I don't mind inspections by officials, since I have nada to hide on my
boats, and I'm always hopeful they'll catch poachers. I don't let the
Power Squadron yahoos aboard for a "courtesy" look-see, though. |
HK
Jul 9
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| Now that you've sold the Parker, what types of "boats" do you still
own? |
Jul 9
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| I haven't sold her yet. The guy I had lined up was turned down by his
bank and his credit union, so we returned his deposit. I do have two
"potentials" I've talked to once or twice. Had another guy who was just
a "tire-kicker." |
HK
Jul 9
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| Harry,
Is it possible that the boat is over priced and the bank is requiring
such a large down payment, that anyone would have trouble getting a loan? When you sell this boat, do you plan on being boatless for the rest of
the season? |
Reginald
Jul 9
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