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Weekend fishing and DS Hooks

Instead of the partly cloudy and mostly calm day (today), I chose the bluebird sky, high wind, post frontal day to go fishing this weekend. All morning long, I pretty much couldn't get bit on anything other than a jerkbait. And only one of the fish I caught would have gone even close to 2 pounds. But then I got one good trip down a certain stretch of weedline that produced a couple slightly bigger fish, so I stuck it out a bit longer. Then the jerkbait bite died. When it did, among the options I went through was drop shotting, and that proved to be the ticket. 9 3 pound class fishin in about an hour and a half saved the day. But in the middle of it all, I broke off my DS rig. When I retied, I gabbed one of these hooks a buddy gave me. Red Diacchi Straight Eye, Straight Tie, Wide Gap hooks. The fact that thye were red didn't seem to hurt or help. they got bit as regular as the black Gammy I'd been using. But I lost 3 of 4 fish I hocked on them, and two of them felt like really good fish. After the 3rd self-unhooker, I took the time to retie with my preferred DS hook, and didn't lose any more. Can't really say that they are inferior, but I sure won't be trying them again.

RichZ© www.richz.com/fishing

RichZ
Jun 14
2004
I'm curious

From your description , you were using a D25Z Daiichi,, was it the same size the Gammy was ? Was it tied up the same ? was the same lure used and hooked up the same ? Could you figure out why it failed ?, was the point checked for sharpness (normally these hooks are about as sharp as you can get, was the barb checked, but this hook was given to you by another, perhaps he had already used it, perhaps damaged ?

I ask this because I have used these hooks, and have found them to work very well in a drop shotting rig. I can't remember two fish lost when I felt the full pull of the fish.

Of course fisherman confidence is very important to any fisherman,, stick with what your confident with.

One hook, failing in one outing, can destroy confidence in it's style and manufacturer, but one hook failing, really is not a test, if a design is flawed.

The way hooks are designed today, it's getting where each one has it's won special application,, take it out of it's specific application, and they don't perform as well as another designed for that application.

Note* To newbe's of drop shotting, not to you Rich

One thing that must be understood when nose hooking a lure,, the further back on the lure you hook it, (to a point of the fattest part of the lure) a small hook does not allow for a good hook set,, you need to make sure you have enough point sticking out, to get a good stick. I have seen number 4's used where a number 1 was needed, the lure filled up the gap in the number 4, making a good hook set almost impossible.

Rodney
Jun 14
Those Daichi hooks sound like they would make great gifts for my fellow club members. ;-)

Brad Coovert 2003 Angler of the Year, Greenfield Bassmasters http://www.greenfieldbassmasters.com

sweepers
Jun 14
As the DS hook I have been using is a Daiwa's circle hook (live bait hook) fine wire in black for 3 inch Power Micro clawer on spinning gear. My fishing water is open water. The circle hook increases the catch ratio than regular worm hook.

I also painted eyelet less salt water hook in sliver to red by red oily pen and used for the DS but not sure the red made muck more strike than silver or black.

I also have a few Daiichi Worm hook in red which were given my friend in the US but not used for DS so far because of a little biger size for 3 to 4 2 staright finess worms.

Hiromi

Hiromi
Jun 15
I HATE circle hooks. The instant of the hook set is the single most exciting moment in fishing. I live for that moment, and sure don't want to have to remember NOT to do it when I'm using a circle hook based presentation. The only problem I have with the Gamakatsu #2 Split Shot Hook that I prefer for DS fishing is that I am almost out of them. Thus the ill advised experiment with the red diacchis that I went through on Saturday.

RichZ© www.richz.com/fishing

RichZ
Jun 14
Sorry about that, the smallify code didn't work on my last post for some reason. Guess I need to keep working on it. PRA77
Jun 14
Don't bother. Newsgroups are and should be the last vestige of plain text RichZ
Jun 14
My favorite as of late is a Zoom 4" C-Tail worm. I use Mustad Ultra Point dropshot hooks for nose-hooking a dropshot bait, size 2 & 4.

Warren -- http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com

go-bassn
Jun 15
Thanks again Rich. I'm putting together a shopping list for Dick's sporting goods, before I hit the road on the 24th. (North Hero VT. If I didn't already mention that somewhere.) Have you fished this area of the lake much or at all? What incredible fishing country. A short boat ride in any direction affords any kind of fish or fishing you choose. And the biggest SMs I've ever seen. PRA77
Jun 16
<My absolute favorite drop shot bait is a 4" "Airtail" worm.>

I think I have 2 of them, in black, left over from the 80's? If not an Airtail, I'm sure they would do the job. Flat paddle like tail?

PRA77
Jun 16
Paul

"Airtail" worm has a straight shape one and paddle shape one, and mayne 4" one is straight tail in my old memory. Please see this one at http://www.cl.bias.ne.jp/~omlsite/photo/lures/airtail.jpg

I also found RickZ's old posting at http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/bassboard/fishing_tactics/T36039.htm

Hiromi

Hiromi
Jun 17
   

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