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back after 30 years (maybe more) need small advice...
Hi all,This group seems to get the better posters, so thought I'd ask here.
Been away from fishing (except rarely in saltwater, but not my own
gear) for some 30 years, and want to get back. Call it a mid-aged
crisis! I am sure fish are laughing everywhere... none are old enough
to remember when I was the terror of fish everywhere ;-) I am hoping for brook trout and bass fishing, wanted to have something
I could use for both a bit. I was planning to use lures and artificial
baits. Advise away please... I played with a bunch of stuff, then left with what I thought was a
pretty decent combination.. a Berkley rod (lightning rod 6'6', says
Medium Light 4-10) and a Mitchell spinning reel. When I was a kid
Mitchell spinners were the best, so that's what I got - though not the
expensive one, just a 308x. It felt well matched to the pole. The
setup sank me 78.00 total. Anyway when I snapped them togehter in the
store they seemed to have a good feel. Is this just junk? Should I
spend my 78.00 elsewhere, and do a bit better, especially for somebody
who hasn't fished for many years? The kid in me was saying a trout
would fear this setup in the hands of a pro. The rod seemed to be
pretty strong, with a supple top on it. Finding a salesman at Sport's
Authority was impossible, so your advise is a appreciated. One of the things most suprising to me was the fishing line. The stuff
is tiny now. Anyhow, I was a bit surprised when I got home, with 8 lb
and 6 lb "stren" to read that the reel will only do 6 lb. I think
(especially having not fished for years) that I would do better with
the 8 lb line for starters, I would rather take the chance of not
hooking the fish, than hooking it and breaking the line through my
inexperience. Advice? Looking on line there is another Mitchell reel, the 300x, which will
take the 8 lb test, but it looks heavier too. Am I making a mountain
out of a molehill? Thanks for any help, and I would appreciate any advice on a better and
more knowledgeable way to do this. I have to admit, a lot of the
purchase was the kid in me going "Wow, nice rig dad!" Mike C. |
mike.corrieri
Jul 8 2004
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| Mike, I believe the setup you have will work although I prefer a medium heavy
action 7 foot rod. If you want to spool the reel with a heavier test look
at putting braid line on the reel. You can buy a heavier test line and get
one that is the same diameter as a 6 LB mono. I prefer Power Pro line. You
will have to learn a few things when using it. First it has to be put on
the reel with mono backing about 20 yards of mono or after the line is tied
on to the reel you must use electrical tape around the reel then spool the
line on top. Braid lines do not stretch and or very slippery. When you tie
the lure on the best knot is the palmar knot. Other knots seemed to slip
causing you to lose fish. When getting strikes you can not set the hook
like on mono, all it takes is raising the rod tip slightly because the line
does not stretch. If you do decide to go with your setup, catching big fish is possible with
your setup you just have to fight the fish longer to prevent line breakage.
You won't be able to man handle the fish to you. Sarge |
Sarge
Jul 9
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| Unless you live in someplace like Newfoundland, you'll eventually want an
ultralight rig for the brookies. Scott |
Scott
Jul 9
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| Mike,
The setup you have is fine. I really doubt that it would be a problem
to put the 8lb test on there. Most of us seem to prefer a heavier setup for
bass but if you set the drag a little looser, and play the fish a little
more, you should be alright. As far as braided lines go, here's my 2.
At first I used light tackle and 6 to 10 pound mono. I thought I was
doing OK until a friend suggested Power Pro. When I tried it on a quality
rod (Loomis GL2) I found that between the rod and no-stretch line I could
feel every rock, every weed, and in turn every strike. It was like going to
fishing school and learning to understand the feedback from the combo. It
made me a better fisherman. Eventually I felt confident in my technique and
went back to mono. I fish a lot of clear to stained water and the
visibility of Power Pro I think was costing me bites.
My advice to you, spool up with the Power Pro and learn to tie on a
fluorocarbon leader. This way you get the rigidity of the super line and
the stealth of a clear line full time. Once you feel like your in the
groove and catching fish, then you go to whatever works best for you. And
if your going bass fishing, I don't care where, learn about the Senko.
Learn about the latest Texas rigging, wacky and drop shot rigs, and you will
put bass in the boat anywhere, especially in clearer water. That has been
my experience anyway. Good Luck and do some reading. Maybe find a local
guide who can give you some one on one instruction with these techniques,
can't hurt. I'm in NJ. Rich P |
Rich
Jul 9
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| Mike,
IMO, what you have on your hands would be considered almost an ultra
light set-up. Some people use this type of set-up with great success.
Personally, the lightest I use for bass fishing is a medium 6' spinning rod
with a spinning reel and 10lb test. I can't really speak to the quality of
Mitchell reels, but I personally like Berkley Lightning rods real well. If
you are gearing more for bass in the future, I would recommend going up from
there, and probably to a baitcasting rig, when you feel your wallet can
stand another hit for this soon-to-be obsession! ;-) Every good bass
fisherman needs at least a couple rods and reels to lug around, for
different situations. I recommend that the nest purchase be a nice
baitcasting reel (I like Abu garcia, personally), on a good 6'6" Med-Heavy
baitcasting rod. This will throw a lot of heavier baits you might use in
the search for bass, like Jigs or crankbaits. P.S. I've also thrown in a little bass fishing slang dictionary that I have
compiled to help people just getting into the bassin world understand what
the heck we are talking about at times... Hope it helps a little! Best of
luck! |
Andrew
Jul 10
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| Is this dictionary in the FAQ? If not, it should be. |
Henry
Jul 9
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| Thanks Henry. It's not in there, but I can probably get around to it. Anyone have any suggesions on items that might need to be included? I thought that maybe a description of each of the reel types might be
helpful as well, especially considering the original request of this
thread...
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Andrew
Jul 11
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| I think you are probably right. As for another suggestion, I like the
Secret Weapon Lures color and blade type charts. For a beginner, all the
choices to make can be intimidating. |
Henry
Jul 11
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| I liked the charts so much I printed out a couple of each to take to the
local tackle stores.
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Bob
Jul 11
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| Thank you, Robert! :-)
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Bob
Jul 11
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| WOW! That was a great post - incredibly useful information there,
especially for reading the threads here and catching up on what people
are talking about. Thanks! I don't know if everybody knew this much when I was a kid, but is
sure seems like there is a level of sophistication that wasn't there
in the sixties (at least I didn't know about it). I wonder - have the
fish gotten smarter too? I didn't even get a bite! I spent day one fussing with the Mitchell - I will be taking it back
tomorrow. A local store had another spinning reel called an "Okuma
Epixor EF20", I bought it, and that was simple and smooth to use (plus
it didn't tend to suck the line everywhere but onto the spool). It may
not be one of the 100+ reels like they had in the case, but it is way
beyond my ability. The store in Prescott had a wide selection of
lures, and I noticed most were heavy for my pole. Guess I need a
heavier pole, but I will keep this medium light as well. I did get a spinning lure, and finally got in the groove with it this
morning - still, no fish! I don't feel to bad though, nobody I
encountered could even speak of a bite. Did I have fun? YES!!!! Can anybody recommend a good book? There is a lot to learn, that's a
fact. The guide idea is good too, any idea what something like that
costs for a day? Thanks for all the great help guys! Mike C. |
mike.corrieri
Jul 11
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| Mike, check out the Okuma Avenger AV-20, it's lighter than the Epixor model,
you'll love it.. |
Jerry
Jul 12
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