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back after 30 years (maybe more) need small advice...

Hi all,

This group seems to get the better posters, so thought I'd ask here. Been away from fishing (except rarely in saltwater, but not my own gear) for some 30 years, and want to get back. Call it a mid-aged crisis! I am sure fish are laughing everywhere... none are old enough to remember when I was the terror of fish everywhere ;-)

I am hoping for brook trout and bass fishing, wanted to have something I could use for both a bit. I was planning to use lures and artificial baits. Advise away please...

I played with a bunch of stuff, then left with what I thought was a pretty decent combination.. a Berkley rod (lightning rod 6'6', says Medium Light 4-10) and a Mitchell spinning reel. When I was a kid Mitchell spinners were the best, so that's what I got - though not the expensive one, just a 308x. It felt well matched to the pole. The setup sank me 78.00 total. Anyway when I snapped them togehter in the store they seemed to have a good feel. Is this just junk? Should I spend my 78.00 elsewhere, and do a bit better, especially for somebody who hasn't fished for many years? The kid in me was saying a trout would fear this setup in the hands of a pro. The rod seemed to be pretty strong, with a supple top on it. Finding a salesman at Sport's Authority was impossible, so your advise is a appreciated.

One of the things most suprising to me was the fishing line. The stuff is tiny now. Anyhow, I was a bit surprised when I got home, with 8 lb and 6 lb "stren" to read that the reel will only do 6 lb. I think (especially having not fished for years) that I would do better with the 8 lb line for starters, I would rather take the chance of not hooking the fish, than hooking it and breaking the line through my inexperience. Advice?

Looking on line there is another Mitchell reel, the 300x, which will take the 8 lb test, but it looks heavier too. Am I making a mountain out of a molehill?

Thanks for any help, and I would appreciate any advice on a better and more knowledgeable way to do this. I have to admit, a lot of the purchase was the kid in me going "Wow, nice rig dad!"

Mike C.

mike.corrieri
Jul 8
2004
Mike,

I believe the setup you have will work although I prefer a medium heavy action 7 foot rod. If you want to spool the reel with a heavier test look at putting braid line on the reel. You can buy a heavier test line and get one that is the same diameter as a 6 LB mono. I prefer Power Pro line. You will have to learn a few things when using it. First it has to be put on the reel with mono backing about 20 yards of mono or after the line is tied on to the reel you must use electrical tape around the reel then spool the line on top. Braid lines do not stretch and or very slippery. When you tie the lure on the best knot is the palmar knot. Other knots seemed to slip causing you to lose fish. When getting strikes you can not set the hook like on mono, all it takes is raising the rod tip slightly because the line does not stretch.

If you do decide to go with your setup, catching big fish is possible with your setup you just have to fight the fish longer to prevent line breakage. You won't be able to man handle the fish to you.

Sarge

Sarge
Jul 9
Unless you live in someplace like Newfoundland, you'll eventually want an ultralight rig for the brookies. Scott Scott
Jul 9
Mike, The setup you have is fine. I really doubt that it would be a problem to put the 8lb test on there. Most of us seem to prefer a heavier setup for bass but if you set the drag a little looser, and play the fish a little more, you should be alright. As far as braided lines go, here's my 2. At first I used light tackle and 6 to 10 pound mono. I thought I was doing OK until a friend suggested Power Pro. When I tried it on a quality rod (Loomis GL2) I found that between the rod and no-stretch line I could feel every rock, every weed, and in turn every strike. It was like going to fishing school and learning to understand the feedback from the combo. It made me a better fisherman. Eventually I felt confident in my technique and went back to mono. I fish a lot of clear to stained water and the visibility of Power Pro I think was costing me bites. My advice to you, spool up with the Power Pro and learn to tie on a fluorocarbon leader. This way you get the rigidity of the super line and the stealth of a clear line full time. Once you feel like your in the groove and catching fish, then you go to whatever works best for you. And if your going bass fishing, I don't care where, learn about the Senko. Learn about the latest Texas rigging, wacky and drop shot rigs, and you will put bass in the boat anywhere, especially in clearer water. That has been my experience anyway. Good Luck and do some reading. Maybe find a local guide who can give you some one on one instruction with these techniques, can't hurt. I'm in NJ.

Rich P

Rich
Jul 9
Mike, IMO, what you have on your hands would be considered almost an ultra light set-up. Some people use this type of set-up with great success. Personally, the lightest I use for bass fishing is a medium 6' spinning rod with a spinning reel and 10lb test. I can't really speak to the quality of Mitchell reels, but I personally like Berkley Lightning rods real well. If you are gearing more for bass in the future, I would recommend going up from there, and probably to a baitcasting rig, when you feel your wallet can stand another hit for this soon-to-be obsession! ;-) Every good bass fisherman needs at least a couple rods and reels to lug around, for different situations. I recommend that the nest purchase be a nice baitcasting reel (I like Abu garcia, personally), on a good 6'6" Med-Heavy baitcasting rod. This will throw a lot of heavier baits you might use in the search for bass, like Jigs or crankbaits.

P.S. I've also thrown in a little bass fishing slang dictionary that I have compiled to help people just getting into the bassin world understand what the heck we are talking about at times... Hope it helps a little! Best of luck!

Andrew
Jul 10
Is this dictionary in the FAQ? If not, it should be. Henry
Jul 9
Thanks Henry. It's not in there, but I can probably get around to it.

Anyone have any suggesions on items that might need to be included?

I thought that maybe a description of each of the reel types might be helpful as well, especially considering the original request of this thread...

Andrew
Jul 11
I think you are probably right. As for another suggestion, I like the Secret Weapon Lures color and blade type charts. For a beginner, all the choices to make can be intimidating. Henry
Jul 11
I liked the charts so much I printed out a couple of each to take to the local tackle stores. Bob
Jul 11
Thank you, Robert! :-) Bob
Jul 11
WOW! That was a great post - incredibly useful information there, especially for reading the threads here and catching up on what people are talking about. Thanks!

I don't know if everybody knew this much when I was a kid, but is sure seems like there is a level of sophistication that wasn't there in the sixties (at least I didn't know about it). I wonder - have the fish gotten smarter too? I didn't even get a bite!

I spent day one fussing with the Mitchell - I will be taking it back tomorrow. A local store had another spinning reel called an "Okuma Epixor EF20", I bought it, and that was simple and smooth to use (plus it didn't tend to suck the line everywhere but onto the spool). It may not be one of the 100+ reels like they had in the case, but it is way beyond my ability. The store in Prescott had a wide selection of lures, and I noticed most were heavy for my pole. Guess I need a heavier pole, but I will keep this medium light as well.

I did get a spinning lure, and finally got in the groove with it this morning - still, no fish! I don't feel to bad though, nobody I encountered could even speak of a bite. Did I have fun? YES!!!!

Can anybody recommend a good book? There is a lot to learn, that's a fact. The guide idea is good too, any idea what something like that costs for a day?

Thanks for all the great help guys!

Mike C.

mike.corrieri
Jul 11
Mike, check out the Okuma Avenger AV-20, it's lighter than the Epixor model, you'll love it.. Jerry
Jul 12
   

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