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I know someone once brought this up and i think it should be given another chance and that is AL in the FAQ Jbuck left angry and a wee bit bitter in his final shot he said this is a personal message board for a few people in here. this is not true, but how many others have left thinking the same thing and just not saying anything? it is obvious that he (AL) will be here for a long long time so to enlighten and explain him to newcomers would be a huge benifit to the group. when i first posted here i was given some advice about him and that was to watch his posts which i did and yes i saw how he disrupts the group and yelling killfile him very obviously does not work so i suggest adopt him into the FAQ so others dont have to go through what Jbuck did just my 2 cents Wayne
Spoonplugger
Jul 17
2004
Spoonplugger. Ive been around a couple of years here and there and I have yet to see how Al has disrupted this newsgroup other then a bunch of grown men slamming him after one of his post. Ok some of his post may be lam or what some might not think worthy of this group but then oh well this group for everyone. I have yet seen 1 post from AL that attacked anyone or slam them unless he was slammed first. Man I bet Al is sure getting a good laugh out of all of this, he differently know how to push some peolpes buttons. hehehe Chris
Jul 17
You make a good point spoonplugger. I'm not going to killfile him because I need the laughs. Newcomers just need to know that he is a very young "lad" and just wants to play with the grownups. As the saying goes "this too shall pass". Unfortunately it may take a very long time. Looks like tomorrow is another washout in SE VA. @#$%@#$! IBNFSHN
Jul 17
You haven't been around long enough to know all of "Al's" personalities(sp). He is a tolerated, by some, troublemaker, with multiple personalities or multiple people playing the personna of "Al".

I was here when "he" first appeared. "He" is not worth worrying about how he is treated. I agree with Plugger. Put "him" in the FAQ along with links to some of "his" posts that show who "he" really is and what "he" is really about.

JMHO

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Dan
Jul 17
I would like to see these links..... as for what "he" is really about, I havent seen them but Heck people can change but it seems that some cant

Chris S.

Chris
Jul 17
Moe almost got rid of him about a year ago. He basically told us all to shut up and ignore him or quit complaining and most everyone said yeah and it almost worked. Al had no responses for about 2 weeks or so. But, "sigh", some just had to play with him. I stayed out of it for several months but then I too couldn't resist. I think Moe is about the only one that has stayed true to his word and ignored our pet. IMHO Joe Z.

"Spoonplugger" <noway@home.com> wrote in message news:8V6Kc.48074$ek5.21612@pd7tw2no... I know someone once brought this up and i think it should be given another chance and that is AL in the FAQ Jbuck left angry and a wee bit bitter in his final shot he said this is a personal message board for a few people in here. this is not true, but how many others have left thinking the same thing and just not saying anything? it is obvious that he (AL) will be here for a long long time so to enlighten and explain him to newcomers would be a huge benefit to the group. when I first posted here I was given some advice about him and that was to watch his posts which I did and yes I saw how he disrupts the group and yelling killfile him very obviously does not work so I suggest adopt him into the FAQ so others don't have to go through what Jbuck did just my 2 cents Wayne

Joe
Jul 17
>so i suggest adopt him into the FAQ...

Killfiling him works for everyone who does it.

As far as the FAQ is concerned, IMO that would be giving him far more recognition and credibility that he/they deserve.

Personally, I'd be delighted if I never had to mention him in any sort of posting whatsoever. But when new people come into the group, their frustration with him needs to be addressed by some sort of warning.

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Eric
Jul 17
The "Al" thing is like a bad case of athlete's foot; kill it deader than a doornail and it still finds a way to return. Shallow brained things like the "jbuck" creature consider their being a part of the group necessary to our survival, but can't stay away after leaving. They always come back as lurkers to sniff us and play with the ca-ca they are sure we have become since their leaving. Good riddance! Bob
Jul 17
I think a more general common "concepts about trolls and usenet" FAQ would serve the purpose without glorifying any particular troll. Bob
Jul 17
Trying to ignore him is noble but with the bleeding hearts and newbies that come and go, this P.O.S. will never leave. No one has ever flamed me on this group( though some may have wanted to) and I think I have been the hardest of all on this "few sandwiches shy of a picnic" nuisance. Ridicule is the best policy, sooner or later he will get the message. Brighten up or bugger off. Who really cares if his feelings are hurt? Would you give a position to a person in your company that claims he is an expert but talks and writes like a three year old, I think not! If he fishes five to seven days a week, how can he be so stupid???????????? How can you find a pattern with one lure???????? Pattern my a$$ ! COME ON!!!!!!!!! To quote Craig B. and I think he summed it up best when he told him to "f*ck off and die" after attempted his save the troll campaign. I believe Al's bulge pump is always running and for now it can keep up with the amount of water he is taking on! Let's punch a hole in his boat the size of Lake "O" and sink him once and for all. Please! Perhaps a weekly "troll Al-ert" could work? let's just keep it current. Thusly.....

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Steve
Jul 17
Well get off your duff and do some research. It's public information, do a search. Then you can see how many groups have been blessed with his trolling. Plonk!

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Dan
Jul 17
I have been in JBUCK's position about two or three years ago i was defending him simply because i did not understand why everyone was so hard on the guy do we need to give him recognition for this in the FAQ hell yes he may enjoy the attention but would it not be more benificial to the group as a whole when someone Like JBuck comes along and trys to defend him then all that would need to be said to the person is check out the FAQ end of discussion no week long threads about what a complete idiot he is because it is all there in FAQ. Wayne Spoonplugger
Jul 17
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Jul 17
I don't think he (she) (they) disrupts the group, it's all the responses. His posts are generally innocuous, and frequently funny. I'm no psychologist, but I think many here consciously or subconsciously enjoy his presence. Why else would he get talked about so much? Here I am, looking at a thread of 13 gratuitous posts about him. Why did you start the thread? Why is he in your consciousness?

Hell, if you don't like him, don't respond, and there's no disruption. Actually, for me, it's entertainment. But if you don't respond, it's just one post that nobody has to read, just like the invitations we get to see someone's sister get it on with a snake, or whatever they're offering these days.

The answer is simple: take Nancy Reagan's advice and JUST SAY NO. Nobody is twisting anyone's arm to click on any given post. A disruption exists only if someone wants it to.

Marty
Jul 18
exactly marty but people do reply to him and it often causes long diatribes Spoonplugger
Jul 18
Well put Marty. Just like all kids, they want attention and he's getting it. IBNFSHN
Jul 18
Well countless others have left -- or never bothered to post and yes, this is a personal message board for a handfull of people. Like all of USENET -- and also most web based fishing boards, it becomes a tight community pretty quick.

If you look at Jan - March of this year, 428 people posted 4605 messages. 174 of those posted once only. A very very small group of people considering the tens of millions with USENET access.

It's a small club, no dues, a few PIA's, lots of egos, and every so often, some advice that will change the way you fish forever.

I guess folks can decide for themselves if the above is a good thing or not. I still don't know. <g>

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Fritz
Jul 18
ok now we are splitting hairs it would be interesting to see of those that posted once why they did not become part of the Group maybe it was because they saw an AL thread and decided that these guys are just plain mean my point is everyone bitches about him and no one does anything about him heres an oppoutunity to finally educate newcomers to the group and say hey we arent mean and this is why he gets treated this way if he is in the FAQ no longer will people like JBUCK leave angry everyone here agrees he is a major PITA and at least twice a year someone most always a newcomer sticks up for him because they do not understand why he is treated with such disrespect. put him in the FAQ and everyone will have the chance to understand new and old alike. Wayne Spoonplugger
Jul 18
Dont want to do the research. I dont have a problem with him. You do Plonk! yourself

Chris S

Chris
Jul 18
I don't plan on posting anymore to this group.I will really resist any temptation to post. I will just go into lurking status to pick up fishing tips.Someday i would like to attend one of the classics. That should end it and you can continue on. Tight lines everyone lurebuilder
Jul 19
You have promised to disappear a least a thousand million times, Troll, but of course like all trolls (yes, folks, that's exactly what IT is) you lie with impunity knowing many will refuse their own eyes. You will be back in one of your many disguises (many of the non-judgmental here see nothing wrong with that) to continue your on-going role as a severe case of human Jock Itch (nothing wrong here either according to many of our non-judgmental, progressive, liberal thinkers).

The rest of us know that you are just a stinking, rotting human hemorrhoid.

Bob Rickard

Bob
Jul 19
I love a guy that tells it like it is. And that, I can assure you, comes from one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. I echo every phrase of Bob's post.

Warren

go-bassn
Jul 19
   

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