a suggestion
I know someone once brought this up and i think it should be given another
chance and that is AL in the FAQ
Jbuck left angry and a wee bit bitter in his final shot he said this is a
personal message board for a few people in here. this is not true, but how
many others have left thinking the same thing and just not saying anything?
it is obvious that he (AL) will be here for a long long time
so to enlighten and explain him to newcomers would be a huge benifit to the
group.
when i first posted here i was given some advice about him and that was to
watch his posts which i did and yes i saw how he disrupts the group and
yelling killfile him
very obviously does not work
so i suggest adopt him into the FAQ so others dont have to go through what
Jbuck did
just my 2 cents
Wayne |
Spoonplugger
Jul 17 2004
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| Spoonplugger. Ive been around a couple of years here and there and I have
yet to see how Al has disrupted this newsgroup other then a bunch of grown
men slamming him after one of his post. Ok some of his post may be lam or
what some might not think worthy of this group but then oh well this group
for everyone. I have yet seen 1 post from AL that attacked anyone or slam
them unless he was slammed first. Man I bet Al is sure getting a good laugh
out of all of this, he differently know how to push some peolpes buttons.
hehehe |
Chris
Jul 17
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| You make a good point spoonplugger. I'm not going to killfile him because I
need the laughs. Newcomers just need to know that he is a very young "lad"
and just wants to play with the grownups. As the saying goes "this too shall
pass". Unfortunately it may take a very long time. Looks like tomorrow is
another washout in SE VA. @#$%@#$!
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IBNFSHN
Jul 17
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| You haven't been around long enough to know all of "Al's"
personalities(sp). He is a tolerated, by some, troublemaker, with
multiple personalities or multiple people playing the personna of
"Al". I was here when "he" first appeared. "He" is not worth worrying about
how he is treated. I agree with Plugger. Put "him" in the FAQ along with links to some
of "his" posts that show who "he" really is and what "he" is really
about. JMHO danl4x@charter.net
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Dan
Jul 17
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| I would like to see these links..... as for what "he" is really
about, I havent seen them but Heck people can change but it seems that some
cant Chris S. |
Chris
Jul 17
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| Moe almost got rid of him about a year ago. He basically told us all to shut
up and ignore him or quit complaining and most everyone said yeah and it
almost worked. Al had no responses for about 2 weeks or so. But, "sigh",
some
just had to play with him. I stayed out of it for several months but then I
too couldn't resist. I think Moe is about the only one that has stayed true
to his word and ignored our pet. IMHO Joe Z. "Spoonplugger" <noway@home.com> wrote in message
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I know someone once brought this up and i think it should be given another
chance and that is AL in the FAQ
Jbuck left angry and a wee bit bitter in his final shot he said this is a
personal message board for a few people in here. this is not true, but how
many others have left thinking the same thing and just not saying anything?
it is obvious that he (AL) will be here for a long long time
so to enlighten and explain him to newcomers would be a huge benefit to the
group.
when I first posted here I was given some advice about him and that was to
watch his posts which I did and yes I saw how he disrupts the group and
yelling killfile him
very obviously does not work
so I suggest adopt him into the FAQ so others don't have to go through what
Jbuck did
just my 2 cents
Wayne |
Joe
Jul 17
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| >so i suggest adopt him into the FAQ... Killfiling him works for everyone who does it. As far as the FAQ is concerned, IMO that would be giving him
far more recognition and credibility that he/they deserve. Personally, I'd be delighted if I never had to mention him
in any sort of posting whatsoever. But when new people come
into the group, their frustration with him needs to be
addressed by some sort of warning. ----
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and deeper into deficit." - John Edwards |
Eric
Jul 17
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| The "Al" thing is like a bad case of athlete's foot; kill it deader than a
doornail and it still finds a way to return. Shallow brained things like the
"jbuck" creature consider their being a part of the group necessary to our
survival, but can't stay away after leaving. They always come back as
lurkers to sniff us and play with the ca-ca they are sure we have become
since their leaving. Good riddance!
|
Bob
Jul 17
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| I think a more general common "concepts about trolls and usenet" FAQ would
serve the purpose without glorifying any particular troll.
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Bob
Jul 17
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| Trying to ignore him is noble but with the bleeding hearts and newbies that
come and go, this P.O.S. will never leave. No one has ever flamed me on this
group( though some may have wanted to) and I think I have been the hardest
of all on this "few sandwiches shy of a picnic" nuisance. Ridicule is the
best policy, sooner or later he will get the message. Brighten up or bugger
off. Who really cares if his feelings are hurt? Would you give a position
to a person in your company that claims he is an expert but talks and writes
like a three year old, I think not! If he fishes five to seven days a week,
how can he be so stupid???????????? How can you find a pattern with one
lure???????? Pattern my a$$ ! COME ON!!!!!!!!!
To quote Craig B. and I think he summed it up best when he told him to "f*ck
off and die" after attempted his save the troll campaign. I believe Al's
bulge pump is always running and for now it can keep up with the amount of
water he is taking on! Let's punch a hole in his boat the size of Lake "O"
and sink him once and for all. Please!
Perhaps a weekly "troll Al-ert" could work? let's just keep it current.
Thusly..... The ROFB embedded troll goes by the screen name of "Lure builder" (for now.
Updates will follow) please do not respond to the posts made by this screen
name as responses are often the cause of fractured and nonsense interaction
of the serious posters of the ROFB. It/he/she/they is not here to harmonise
with the accepted protocol nor topic of this group. If we could politely ask
that any responses should be courteously carried out in personal e-mail type
responses and not on this forum. Thanks for your co-operation in this
matter.
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Steve
Jul 17
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| Well get off your duff and do some research. It's public information,
do a search. Then you can see how many groups have been blessed with
his trolling. Plonk! danl4x@charter.net
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Dan
Jul 17
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| I have been in JBUCK's position about two or three years ago i was defending
him simply because i did not understand why everyone was so hard on the guy
do we need to give him recognition for this in the FAQ
hell yes he may enjoy the attention but would it not be more benificial to
the group as a whole when someone
Like JBuck comes along and trys to defend him
then all that would need to be said to the person is
check out the FAQ end of discussion no week long threads about what a
complete idiot he is because it is all there in FAQ.
Wayne |
Spoonplugger
Jul 17
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Steve
Jul 17
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| I don't think he (she) (they) disrupts the group, it's all the responses.
His posts are generally innocuous, and frequently funny. I'm no
psychologist, but I think many here consciously or subconsciously enjoy his
presence. Why else would he get talked about so much? Here I am, looking at
a thread of 13 gratuitous posts about him. Why did you start the thread? Why
is he in your consciousness? Hell, if you don't like him, don't respond, and there's no disruption.
Actually, for me, it's entertainment. But if you don't respond, it's just
one post that nobody has to read, just like the invitations we get to see
someone's sister get it on with a snake, or whatever they're offering these
days. The answer is simple: take Nancy Reagan's advice and JUST SAY NO. Nobody is
twisting anyone's arm to click on any given post. A disruption exists only
if someone wants it to. |
Marty
Jul 18
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| exactly marty but people do reply to him and it often causes long diatribes |
Spoonplugger
Jul 18
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| Well put Marty. Just like all kids, they want attention and he's getting it.
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IBNFSHN
Jul 18
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| Well countless others have left -- or never bothered to post and yes,
this is a personal message board for a handfull of people. Like all of
USENET -- and also most web based fishing boards, it becomes a tight
community pretty quick. If you look at Jan - March of this year, 428 people posted 4605
messages. 174 of those posted once only. A very very small group of
people considering the tens of millions with USENET access. It's a small club, no dues, a few PIA's, lots of egos, and every so
often, some advice that will change the way you fish forever. I guess folks can decide for themselves if the above is a good thing or
not. I still don't know. <g> http://netscan.research.microsoft.com/Static/reportcard.asp?timespan=q&searchfor=rec.outdoors.fishing.bass&searchdate=3%2F31%2F2004 |
Fritz
Jul 18
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| ok now we are splitting hairs it would be interesting to see of those that
posted once why they did not become part of the Group maybe it was because
they saw an AL thread and decided that these guys are just plain mean
my point is everyone bitches about him and no one does anything about him
heres an oppoutunity to finally educate
newcomers to the group and say hey we arent mean
and this is why he gets treated this way if he is in the FAQ no longer will
people like JBUCK leave angry
everyone here agrees he is a major PITA and at least twice a year someone
most always a newcomer sticks up for him because they do not understand why
he is treated with such disrespect. put him in the FAQ and everyone will
have the chance to understand new and old alike.
Wayne |
Spoonplugger
Jul 18
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| Dont want to do the research. I dont have a problem with him. You do
Plonk! yourself Chris S |
Chris
Jul 18
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| I don't plan on posting anymore to this group.I will really resist any
temptation to post. I will just go into lurking status to pick up fishing
tips.Someday i would like to attend one of the classics. That should end it and
you can continue on. Tight lines everyone |
lurebuilder
Jul 19
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| You have promised to disappear a least a thousand million times, Troll, but
of course like all trolls (yes, folks, that's exactly what IT is) you lie
with impunity knowing many will refuse their own eyes. You will be back in
one of your many disguises (many of the non-judgmental here see nothing
wrong with that) to continue your on-going role as a severe case of human
Jock Itch (nothing wrong here either according to many of our
non-judgmental, progressive, liberal thinkers). The rest of us know that you are just a stinking, rotting human hemorrhoid. Bob Rickard |
Bob
Jul 19
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| I love a guy that tells it like it is. And that, I can assure you, comes
from one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. I echo every phrase of Bob's
post. Warren |
go-bassn
Jul 19
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