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Fishing & Hunting - Commentary
I love fishing and hunting. There is nothing better than being out in
nature, enjoying her beauty and partaking in one of my favorite activities.
But. . . .I believe a fisherman takes only what is legal or whatever he and his family
will eat, whichever is the lesser of the two. I believe this also holds
true to hunters., and up to this point, I don't think anyone would disagree
with me. I just watched a program on hunting and became angry, as I do sometimes when
I watch deep sea fishing programs. I hate to see hunters use dogs, when the
dogs job is to run down the animal. I DON'T have a problem at all with a
using a single dog, such as a retriever, to point out, flush and retrieve
birds. But I do have a problem when a pack of dogs are used to run down,
surround, and trap an animal so that the so called hunter can walk up and
shoot it. Then listen to the guy tell me what a great hunt it was, when
their dogs did all the hunting. They are no more a hunter than a guy who
uses dynamite, to catch fish, is a fisherman. If this individual was using one of these methods as the sole means to feed
his family, I wouldn't have a problem it. That includes using dynamite to
catch fish. A man must do whatever is necessary to feed, cloth, shelter,
and protect their family. But to call it fishing or hunting is a joke.
With all our modern camo, scents, callers, gps, etc., do we really need to
use dog packs to run down our prey. Yeah, I'm a moderate democrat - so I also believe a man only needs a
shotgun, a long rifle, a bow, a good knife, and maybe a semi-auto handgun to
hunt with and for protection. The weapons I have are for hunting, not for
taking on an invading army. We have the police and military for that.
But, hey, I think it would be cool to use tranquilizer tarts to hunt with so
that you could shoot that big deer, get your photo taken with it and then
let it go. Catch & release hunting, because for me, it is the hunt that is
the fun.
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Craig
Aug 7 2004
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| Craig, while I don't disagree with you I'm sure there's a much more
appropriate group on which to voice your objections to certain hunting
methods. You should be out dynamiting bass anyway... Warren |
go-bassn
Aug 7
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| That's the exact reason I don't have Fishing dogs ;-) |
TerryNC
Aug 7
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| Your reasons are personal, and you should be able to feel this way, and |
Rodney
Aug 7
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| I could never get my fishing dogs to give the fish back. Once they got one |
alwaysfishking
Aug 7
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| oh, God. Just what I was afraid of Craig... Warren |
go-bassn
Aug 7
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| WArren there are 3.5 million machine guns legally owned by private
citizens in the U.S. (more than the number that the US military has), I
bet you didn't know that,, and so far, since 1932, only one machine gun
that was legally owned by citizens has ever been used to kill anyone,
(even by accident) by that citizen, and that was an off duty policeman
who killed his wife with one back in the 50's So high powered bass boats kill many more people than machine guns, yet
there are more machine guns owned, than high powered bass boats Of course the left wing media, and the left wingers want no one to know
that, they "Believe" that people could not be trusted with that kind of
weapons You see Warren, I deal in facts,, not beliefs, or feelings So your fears are totally unfounded, you listen and believe people who
don't have a clue about the facts, or the don't care about them, or they
just twist them to fit their beliefs
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Rodney
Aug 7
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| You're rolling Rodney, keep at it. I'm making a collection of your dribble,
it's a real laugh riot. I'm gonna post your top-10 quotes at Christmas time, just to spread some
holiday cheer... Warren |
go-bassn
Aug 7
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| I can see it now.. |
alwaysfishking
Aug 7
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| Mine sink like a rock-weiler ;-) |
TerryNC
Aug 7
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| I think both you and Warren are out of line. You treat Craig's comment with
respect and just because you do not care for Rodney, you slam and ridicule
his opinion. As to his opinion, it is much closer to the founders of this
country than yours. They put the 2nd amendment in the Constitution so
people had the ability to overthrow the government of this country, if
government became dictatorial and out of control. Maybe you ought to go
take a couple ov civics and history courses, as well as take an
introspective look and your own actions.
Bill |
Calif
Aug 7
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| Lol Bill, I disagree. Warren |
go-bassn
Aug 7
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| <snip>They put the 2nd amendment in the Constitution so |
alwaysfishking
Aug 7
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| Every capable honest citizen should own a full automatic military weapon |
rgarri7470
Aug 7
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| Ronnie, I don't care what you have in your house. That's your business. I don't need some paranoid paramilitary idiot telling me what I should have
in mine. Warren |
go-bassn
Aug 7
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| I think they call that nature photography. |
Fritz
Aug 8
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| taken from you? naw....some others that I know -- oh yeah, definately!
<grin> |
Fritz
Aug 8
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| Again you ASSUME I don't own any assault weapons, I'm not into paramilitary crap, I
don't even personally know anyone who is, I'm not paranoid, I don't even
carry a knife, and I have an IQ of 186. Statements were made that were not based on facts, I give the facts WHo's the idiot ?
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Rodney
Aug 7
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| < They put the 2nd amendment in the Constitution so people had the ability
to overthrow the government of this country, if government became
dictatorial and out of control. Maybe you ought to go take a couple ov
civics and history courses, as well as take an introspective look and your
own actions. > If I may interrupt here... First of all, I believe guns in the hand of citizens is no more dangerous
than cell phones in the hands of people. Personally, I think that people
have no need for fully automatic weapons but it's not my place to tell them
not to.. But let's get to my real point.. "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,
the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." That is the exact quote of the 2nd amendment of the constituion. It's
purpose was very simple - to allow people the access to weapons in the
defense of the state. Let's think back to the minute men. That's where
this came from. People have often mistaken it's meaning and even misquoted
it for there needs.. Christopher |
Christopher
Aug 7
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| You are right though, I left out a word I meant "should be able to own" I don't want anyone who does think he could be trusted with such a
firearm, to have one The reason for the left out word is due to I'm high as a kite, I've been on drugs since the middle of the week, I'm
trying to pass a 5 mm kidney stone, it's a wonder I'm even able to think
with the pain and the drugs,, but everything else in the post was correct
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Rodney
Aug 7
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| First you say ">>Every capable honest citizen should own a full automatic
military weapon", then you say "> I don't own any assault weapons, I'm not into paramilitary
crap". By your own logic you're either an idiot or an incapable dishonest citizen. 186, lol. Warren |
go-bassn
Aug 7
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| Hey Fritz, ever try and hold a 8 point buck still for a picture? Wascally |
alwaysfishking
Aug 7
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| I'm counting 3 words but, hey, I'm no 186 IQ... ....but I'm not high either lol. Warren ;-)
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http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions |
go-bassn
Aug 7
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| Yes, the AK47 should. If this is really 40 round clip, must be some
counterfeit and may be dangerous! (all of mine came with 30 round clips)
;-) |
Nikolay
Aug 7
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| I'm not high, I'm stoned , I think I'm stoned, if I didn't hurt so bad,
maybe I'd know, nope if I didn't hurt so bad , I would never take this
crap, how can anyone like this feeling ? but then again, I can stand the
buzz 3 beers gives me, 2, well, that's feels good, but three, that's
loosing too much control, and dulls the brain.
This 10 MG of Oxycodone is terrible
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Rodney
Aug 7
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| You are the man. & You are preaching to the choir. I'm somewhat
handicapped so that I can walk, but not very far. (asthma & now
arthritis. I loved squirrrel huting because you can sit & wait on them,
but I always had that twinge of regret at killing them. I went for deer
once & sat with my 35 Remington teling the deer not to show up. They
must have heard me because none showed up. (LOL) I love shooting, (I am
a Civil War buff & reenactor & member of the NSSA skirmishers from the
fighting 69th N. Y. & attend national skirmisjes (black powder CW unit
musket etc. competitions, but it's catch & relrase fishing & I'll never
again kill ananimal for my ego's sake. If I needed to hunt to live, I'd
do so & regret it each time I did so. Sorry if that makes me a wimp, but
I don't measure my manhood by how many innocent creatures I kill. (like
Ted Nugent & Charleton Heston for instance.) I once was a member of the
NRA, but when they came out against taking teflon bullets (whose only
purpose was penetrating police body armor) off the market I sent them a
nasty letter & go the hell out of NRA. Go Johnnies Go (Kerry & Edwards) -- |
GrayGhostYankee
Aug 8
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| Even a liberal fundamentalist should attempt to educate themselves a bit on
wildlife management practices.
In many areas of the country, deer in particular, geese, even turkey, need
to be harvested in order to
improve the general condition of the population. Since our urban sprawled
society in most areas can no longer
tolerate predators, the deer population, for instance, is overpopulated to a
degree that would cause two problems.
Firstly, mass starvation and disease are a direct result of overpopulation.
Secondly and more importantly, the flora of an
area suffers extreme and sometimes irreversible damage as a result of
overpopulation of browser species.
Maybe you would have rather see large squads of feds out there administering
politically correct birth control to the deer population? Sounds like a
Kerry platform issue, come to think of it.
I know plenty of hunters and it's darned rare to meet one with ego issues.
On the other hand, I know selfrighteous, politically correct types that
nearly all have ego problems. Bill Allemann |
bill
Aug 8
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| That was not the only reason for teflon bullets Many of us reloads used them, it allowed us to shoot lead bullets at
jacked bullet velocities, reducing our cost to practice The Anti gun nuts wanted everyone to think it was just to penetrate
police vest,, just so they could chip away at the guns and ammo. Of course even if this was true, it would be another case of getting it
into the public eyes that guns are only for hunting, then like in
England, when they ban hunting, they can then ban guns One day the peta people will get a law pasted where you can only catch
and release fish,, of course this would not upset you personally, but
this step would be another step to their final goal of stopping fishing
completly One step at a time is the game plan of gun grabbers ,and animal rights
people WE must unite to defend all our rights, we can't keep giving up a little
each year, at one point we will have none left,, Use your brains people. If they outlaw personal water craft, this would make many here happy,
but that would be one step to outlawing high performance bass boats,
which would be a step to outlawing gas powered boats, you must look at
the final goals of these people, as they one step at a time you
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Rodney
Aug 8
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| AMEN!!!! Budd |
Budd
Aug 8
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