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Best Rod Guides?

Ok, so I've got about a dozen St Croic Premier rods laying around. They all have one thing in common - the eyes &/or tip tops are messed up. I'm going to keep my good buddy Steve Huber busy for a week or so this winter by having him rewrap them all with top-quality guides. So, what are the best & how much do they cost?

Funny, I love the Premiers but the guides just stink. I've never had a blank or any other part of the rods let me down, but c'mon St Croix!

Warren

go-bassn
Oct 6
2004
Check out the Recoils? Eric
Oct 6
Fill me in dude, I know nothing.

WW

go-bassn
Oct 6
http://www.rec.com/rec/web/html/products.html

I really don't think your problem is with the guide itself, but rather the way it's wrapped to the rod. A single foot guide will be more prone to come undone than a double foot style, but wrapped correctly it still shouldn't come off the blank.

I really couldn't tell a difference between anyones guides until Steve built that spinning/drop shot rod for me. He used the Titanium SiC guides and they're sweet. I really don't think I personally need those strong guides, so I settled with the Alconite guides on my others. (Plus, they're cheaper) I'm sure if Steve rewraps your rods... you won't have any problems.

Also, I'm sure that the epoxy plays a big part of it too. I like these Bionic Blade rods from BPS, but after awhile the epoxy coating around the wraps start chipping off. I just recoat them as needed...

Charles
Oct 6
The hype: Pure titanium, no inserts to crack chip fade or peel!

Llightest weight, not quite highest cost.

Easy to wrap.

The blues: Tiptops are not preferred, use alconite, etc.

Hard to get http://www.merricktackle.com/gear.htm (wholesale only iirc) there is a pic one page down.

Eric
Oct 7
I usually use Fuji SiC guides which run about $3 to $9 or more each depending upon the exact part number. Your rodbuilder will help you select the best guide for the money and use. If you are replacing some of the guides on a rod, but not all of them, you will have to match the new guides to the existing guides fairly closely if you want the rod to continue to work well.

You could also visit some of the rod builders web sites to give yourself an education. Try http://www.customtackle.com and http://www.mudhole.com/ for starters. You might also visit the Fuji website.

Have you thought about learning how to install guides yourself? If you are handy and have some patience it's not that difficult to get started. I took up rod building almost two years ago and, with some help from the vendors, some books, and people in this newsgroup I have gotten pretty good at it. I must say I really enjoy boating fish on a rod that I built myself. You don't really save much money, but you have more fun within the confines of the sport and you get exactly what you want in a rod.

Richard
Oct 7
Yes Richard I actually built a rod or two when I was in my teens lol. Not a bad idea about rewrapping my own rods. Maybe I'll look into it. Can you buy guide sets direct from Fuji?

Warren

go-bassn
Oct 7
I don't think you can buy guide sets directly from Fuji. I usually call Custom Tackle and order over the phone. They are very helpful, even with a small order. I usually work with a fellow named Bob, but anyone there can help you. Mudhole has also been very helpful.

You'll need very few hand tools to get started, however you will need something to turn the rod slowly for a few hours after you apply the epoxy. I invested in a motorized rod turner when I got started. I think it cost about $65. Other than that the costs have been mostly for blanks, guides, handle kits, etc.

Cabelas has a very broad selection of rod building components and tools also.

If you fly fish you can save a lot of money building your own stuff, much more than with bass equipment.

My experience is still somewhat limited, but I'll try to help you if I can. If you post in this group for advice you'll surely get a lot of input from others too.

This is a great group!

Good luck,

Rick

Richard
Oct 7
Where can I get them? I cant find them in that link...

WW

go-bassn
Oct 8
Jann's Netcraft www.jannsnetcraft.com has a good supply of rod building supplies

Git-R-Done

uscgret
Oct 8
ok, here's the horses mouth for the recoils: http://www.rec.com/rec/web/html/recoilspin.html I sure hope you have a wallet crobar:)

might want to check out the Fuji New Concept Series TATSG guides: http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.210436/ck.RaMnw76JAMaLrmmC/cktime.5262/sc.19/category.-119/it.A/id.11706/.f;jsessionid=ac112b1b1f43c0b004b449934bbab2379a8952b7b633.qQvJq2PEmlnva30O-BbQmkLz-ATzr6Lzn6rzqwTxpQOUc30KaNDNo6XKq6zInRmTbgbNo6XK-kDvrA4Ka3eIqQvJq2PEmlnva30O-BbQmkLz-ATzr6Lzn6rzqwTxpQOxahyPaNmTaNyRaMb48QvJpkixn6jAmljGr5XDqQLvpAe_ same link: http://makeashorterlink.com/?U23832B79

some more recoil discussion: http://www.rodbuilding.org/search.php?f=2&search=recoil&globalsearch=0&match=1&date=0&fldsubject=1

Eric
Oct 8
Thanks! go-bassn
Oct 8
   

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