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Need your advice on SWL 2005 Lineup

ROFB members have played a major roll in refinement and upgrading of the Secret Weapon spinnerbait. Almost all of our first field testers and several of our current prostaffers come from these ranks, and we've sponsored every ROFB classic event for the past five years, providing lures, caps, decals, and a few other prizes. We appreciate your assistance and willingness to help us, so once again we're turning to you for your perspective as bass anglers and tackle buyers.

As Bob Rickard, Charles Summers, and I consider our present lineup (See http://secretweaponlures.com/spinnerbaits.htm), it seems to me that there are a few redundancies as well as gaps in our offering. For instance, models 206 (Chartreuse Shad), 212 (Green Goddess), and 226 (Chartreuse/Green Back) all fill the need for a darker, visually-bulkier chartreuse lure. It occurred to us that buyers will choose one, but not two or all three, of those models, so we're tying up money in inventory that we should be spending to expand our lines. Of those three, which do you prefer?

Gaps.... what's is conspicuous in its absence? Consider the color patterns that produce well for you, compare it to our lineup, and then let us know what you recommend we add. We've already had calls to reinstate our #216 Red Craw, and we plan to make a couple of changes (red shad head rather than gold shad head, plus a change in skirt pattern) and then get it back up on the chart.

What else do we lack? We're requesting that you post your recommendation here. What we're looking for is a model name, description, and explanation of why this is a good pattern with suggestions on its use. One model per post, but there is no limit to the number of suggestions/posts per person.

As an incentive and in appreciation, if we add your suggestion(s) to our 2005 lineup, we'll send the first person to suggest it that new pattern in a couple of sizes to use on your home waters.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Joe
Oct 11
2004
Hi Joe,

Certainly the 206 and 226 are similar enough that perhaps one could be phased out. But the Green Goddess needs to stay also.

What are you missing. An all white spinnerbait. That white crystal used in the model 210 is what is missing. I use all white spinnerbaits a lot. Those Silver Shiner and Shad versions are not white.

Best I can offer.

Later Carlos

Carlos
Oct 11
Thank You Carlos! Charles
Oct 11
Red Craw is a must. Man that thing catchs fish. On an overcast day that spinnerbait rocks As carlos stated an all white spinnerbait is also one of the go to spinnerbaits for me. Unfortunately it is almost exclusively the Quad Shad by Strik King..Please make an all white Please!!!!!.

The 226 can go but I would suggest keeping the 206 and of course the 212. The 226 looks like a combo of the two.

Have you guys thought about soft plastic trailers? They work real well with the way your spinnerbaits are designed, giving you quite a bit more color combos to work with without getting in the way of hookups. I have used some split tails and zoom worm tails make some exceptionally good trailers. I have had real good luck with the red/white combo on the red craw and yellow on the green goddess. Blackberry(purple/Blk) is an exceptional color to use on the midnight snacks. Consider getting some trailers going for these, sometimes that increased profile makes the difference from a fish swirling on it to a fish engulfing it.. don't get me wrong sometimes the reverse was true

Finally a post that got me excited, this group has been quiet. Good luck guys, I can't wait to see what next year brings.

Alwaysfishking
Oct 11
Joe, I really like the Green Godess of the three you mentioned. As for a new style, how about something more like a bluegill. A darker blue head and a skirt like the baby bass, only darker.

pat

pat
Oct 11
Why not offer a three pack at a reduced price. You won't need to change the packaging, just mail back one of each in the same envolope. Just a thought. Doc ===

"Joe Haubenreich" <rofbmail (at) secretweaponlures (dot) com> wrote in message news:TNidneJhSbap8vfcRVn-uQ@comcast.com...

As Bob Rickard, Charles Summers, and I consider our present lineup (See http://secretweaponlures.com/spinnerbaits.htm), it seems to me that there are a few redundancies as well as gaps in our offering. For instance, models 206 (Chartreuse Shad), 212 (Green Goddess), and 226 (Chartreuse/Green Back) all fill the need for a darker, visually-bulkier chartreuse lure. It occurred to us that buyers will choose one, but not two or all three, of those models, so we're tying up money in inventory that we should be spending to expand our lines.

What else do we lack? We're requesting that you post your recommendation here.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Doc
Oct 11
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:17:29 GMT, Carlos <k9zm@frontiernet.net> sent Dan
Oct 11
An ultra small spinner bait in shad and baby bass patterns. I caught a lot of fish in 1/8 oz sizes in the early summer last year when the fry was small.

When I can see chasers during that time I know to throw a small bait.

I might also suggest a prismatic willow blade, as an option for breaking up the flash a little bit. Mepps did that on their in-line plastic minnow spinners many years ago, and it was the first lure I caught a bass in the Colorado River with way back when I was in the sixth grade. For a bit if a stretch one of the kids that showed me that bait called them "Weapons." He was a bit lysdexic and he confused the M for a W on the lures. Wepps as in short for...

Bob La Londe www.YumaBassMan.com

Bob
Oct 11
How about a shell cracker or pumpkin seed with blades to match.

Bob La Londe www.YumaBassMan.com

Bob
Oct 11
Yessir, those sure are good names. When you get time, can you also give us a few more details.... a description and recommendations for their use? It would help to reference skirt patterns available at Stamina (http://www.staminainc.com/skirtbuild.html) or Barlow's (http://www.barlowstackle.com/fishing-lure-skirts.html) so we know what you have in mind.

Joe ________________ "Bob La Londe" <usenet@diycomponnts.com> wrote in message news:qYidne3oX8NHYffcRVn-vg@adelphia.com... How about a shell cracker or pumpkin seed with blades to match.

Bob La Londe www.YumaBassMan.com

Joe
Oct 11
I'ld use them the same place I use crank baits now. Slow rolled around the edges and over the top of grass beds holding sunfish.

I'm thinking a pumpkin skirt with a hint of green at the top and some off white at the bottom. Pair that with a pumpkin painted set of blades maybe one side pumpkin and one side bare gold.

Bob
Oct 11
I don't know know if it's the muddy water here in Illinois or what, but a bright white spinnerbait is a favorite of many. The Shelbyville bait (LOL) has always been said to be a white spinnerbait, tandem blades, the first a small red colorado. Funny, they do sell well in the shops here in central IL.

I think it is good to match-the-hatch, and with the selection Secret Weapon has a person could do that. But there are times when just nothing else will do and I grab an all white spinnerbait with nickle blades.

Carlos

Carlos
Oct 12
Opps, that's three in one post, sorry Joe, I just couldn't help myself. What ya expect from someone from Arkansas. :-)

Larry

Larry
Oct 11
We have been requested by an individual, who would probably be considered to be the single biggest name in bass fishing, to design and build a special proprietary 1/8 oz. ultralight spinnerbait for ultimate sales under his brand name. Unfortunately, ;-( we are not at liberty to make that name or any other further details public. The final prototypes are in production, and additional information will be released when it is appropriate to do so. Bob
Oct 12
Oh.... great. Now you've done it. Remind me to never tell you where I hid the keys to my truck, Bob.

Joe _________________ "Bob Rickard" <r.r.rickard@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:0QGad.4446$q%7.879@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com... We have been requested by an individual, who would probably be considered to be the single biggest name in bass fishing, to design and build a special proprietary 1/8 oz. ultralight spinnerbait for ultimate sales under his brand name. Unfortunately, ;-( we are not at liberty to make that name or any other further details public. The final prototypes are in production, and additional information will be released when it is appropriate to do so.

Joe
Oct 11
Hey, Larry.... where've you been? Joe
Oct 11
If I remember correctly, Brian Greer won the Mid-Tenn. Classic in 2001, with him and Rod Storm throwing a downsized white spinnerbait. I'd have to say that a few of us definitely consider Green Goddess, Firetiger, Midnight Snack, and Baby Bass a plus factor in the SW lineup. Those few are a mainstay in my Plano box, along with a few extras. In Michigan it seems that Green Pumpkin is a go-to color with almost any bait/lure that we throw, along with Watermelon Green. Jerry
Oct 11
I'm partial to the Bleeding Shad Joe, please don't lose that one! I think the 1/8th oz size would be cool as well. I would be happy to field test any new colors that you may come up with! :))

Heavy

heavy
Oct 12
I'm partial to the Bleeding Shad Joe, please don't lose that one! I think the 1/8th oz size would be cool as well. I would be happy to field test any new colors that you may come up with! :))

Heavy

heavy
Oct 12
Joe, I would keep the 206 chartreuse shad. As you know I think it is one of the best looking skirts we have. As do a lot of anglers I have talked to and sold to. Who wanted to buy more.

I would like to see a pumpkin/green skirt. Stamina Sil-a-chrome 510 pumpkin/ green, or Nature's scales 610.

I believe the firetiger head would go well with this skirt. A good name for it would be Spring Craw.

This is a good color to match the crawdads in a lot of waters. This color is used a lot in soft plastics, and does well. It would be a good color for both stained and clear water.

-Justin

Hrootbeer1
Oct 12
   

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