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Finally tried out Rodney's Hook

I finally tried out Rodney's standup hook. It seemed to perform ok, but it tended to get wrapped up in the line. I have caught three fish on it on three different outings, and for very short range presentations it worked fine. I don't think I have missed any fish with it. I also have tried the W.W.Hook that Warren reccomended for my wacky worming as a drop shot hook. It worked equally as well with good hook ups on several fish, and I do not believe I have missed any fish with it. It also can get wrapped up in the line, but it did not seem to do so as often and was not as bad.

To be honest, when I criticized the ability of SW spinner baits to get tangled up in the line several in this news group criticized my casting technique and some went as far as to say I had to be screwing up to get it it tangled like I described. However, when I can clearly see a difference in line tagles with the more complicated hook I have to assume there is a correlation.

My partner showed me how he ties a Palomar knot that makes a hook stand straight out from the line even after fishing with it all day long. If a person can master that there is no real need for either of these hooks, but I didn't quite get the trick to it.

Personally I think the Standout Hook by Daiichi and the W.W.Hook by Reaction Innovations are excellent choices for drop shotting, and they would be far superior for most anglers over using any other standard hook for drop shotting. They both use the weight and the tag of the line to hold the hook in what looks like an optimum angle for getting a hook set. The Standout Hook may be slightly easier to rig with its hard wire loop to drop the tag end of the line through. I had to pick up the mono loop with my finger nail to get the tag end through on the W.W.Hook, but it would lay back down and grip the tag end of the line slightly.

Bob
Oct 11
2004
Bob - I didn't recommend the WW hook (I love that name) as a dropshot hook, just as a weedless wacky hook. A simple bent shank worm hook (hooking the bait T-style) in a small size is the weedless solution to dropshotting.

Rodney's hook, IMHO, is too much hook for a dropshot finesse presentation, and does nothing that a regular hook properly tied with a polomar knot does (except maybe cost more lol). The beauty & appeal of a dropshot rig is rooted in its simplicity & lack of "extra" material.

As for missing fish, a standard dropshot rig, when fished & rigged properly & presented on the right tackle, should be a 98% success rate rig anyway.

Warren

go-bassn
Oct 11
I know that. I think I said that you reccomended as a wacky hook. I ran across a refference to using as a drop shot somewhere else. May be a moot point anyway. The guy at RI not only doesn't want to sell to me he was downright rude about it using profanity to me on the phone. Got any alternative suggestions for a good wacky worm hook?

Bob La Londe

Bob
Oct 11
Really? Please, go into specific details! I don't want to support someone like that...

Warren

go-bassn
Oct 11
On added feature of the Stand out is when the line straightens out against the weight it "kicks" the lure for added action

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Rodney
Oct 11
Your HO is appreciated, but it is not based on any facts, as you have not used this hook, so is based on just your dislike for me, I can even accept that, but that needs to be in your post concerning my tackle designs

The benefits of the S/O hook are many,, for one, amateurs can quickly rig it, you can't screw it up,, for two, it will be coming in all sizes up to 9/0 for saltwater drop shotting and deep sea fishing, since it seams you have never used big lures with a drop shot rig, you have limited it's success potential for larger fish,, this new hook has been used with huge lures as well as tiny ones,, drop shotting is now not just for faness fishing. It will also come in sizes that can be rigged weedless.

Another thing the S/O hook can do is allowing the use of larger hooks than what the Palomar knot can't wedge into of other hooks, line size , (which determines knot size) determines what size standard hook can be attached drop shot style, that is no longer the case with the S/O. The drop shot hooks of the past have limited the size lures used on them

The leg of the S/O also "kicks" the lure, when the line straightens, the weight of the lure has little to do with dampening this action, you could test this even in the air, holding the line and snapping it tightly, even with an 8 inch worm on it. the leg does not spook the fish, if fact, in testing of the bleeding version it seams that leg looks like a flared gill slit, attracting more strikes, than fishing a standard drop shot hook

In this case Warren, just let everyone find out for themselves , or from others that don't have an ax to grind.

I have caught over 1,000 fish with the S/O hook, using lures and using natural baits, many more than any other fisherman, so I would think I am the expert of this hook

Rodney
Oct 11
See my other post for details. Its pretty funny.

Bob La Londe www.YumaBassMan.com

Bob
Oct 11
Can't see it Bob, where?

Warren

go-bassn
Oct 11
"What is the problem..." You replied to the original post earlier. Bob
Oct 11
Holy cow Bob, that is truly amazing. Can't blame you for feeling the way they do.

I'm pretty sure you can tie-up some of those mono weedguards yourself, can't you?

Warren

go-bassn
Oct 12
Yeah, I can tie it up just fine. I just need to find the right hook for it. If I am careful one hook lasts me for several outings so its no big deal if I only have a few on hand. Bob
Oct 12
   

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