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BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...
I lost a fish yesterday that definately would have helped my standings, due
to a bad hook. I generally have no problems with the BPS hooks, but then
again, every now and then I get one that wants to bend very easily.
Yesterday was a good example. I set the hook on a fish and missed. I knew
good and well that he was there and felt the fish as I set the hook. When I
reeled in my line, I noticed the the hook was bent like I had hung up on a
rock... except there wasn't enough pressure for a bend like that. I examined
the hook to find that I could easily bend that thing in any direction I
wanted to, and it would remain in that position.So, I'm going to be looking for another hook that I can use and won't bend.
I've tried the gammy's and the owners, but didn't like the gammys and the
owners are way too expensive. Anyone have any suggestions? (EWG - 2/0, 3/0,
4/0) |
Charles
Oct 17
2004
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| Mustad's work ok for me..I use EWG black nickel.. |
uscgret
Oct 17
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| >to a bad hook. I generally have no problems with the BPS hooks, but then |
Thundercat
Oct 17
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| I like Texposer hooks but I had one break when I was taking a fish off
now I wonder about them.. |
uscgret
Oct 17
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| >to a bad hook. I generally have no problems with the BPS hooks, but then |
Dan
Oct 17
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| I love those red gammy's, don't think I bought anything else from them
except red this year "Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard now" |
alwaysfishking
Oct 17
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| Charles, With money on the line, for me it is Daiichi , and nothing else. If I was
going for a line class record, Daiichi, if I was in the bassmasters classic,
Daiichi. I have used so many different hooks, Gamakatsu are have too light
of wire, I don't like the cutting edge of Mustad or Eagle Claw, to me the
points bend to easy.
I guess I can't say enough about them, and wish I could send everyone free
ones to try just so they knew as well! Take care, Chris |
Chris
Oct 17
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| For one... I can't seem to get my baits to lay straight on them. The gap is
fine, but the point is a little too much inline with the eye giving me the
trouble. With the BPS hooks, I can rig in the dark with no problems. I know
this may all be in my head, but I seem to miss more fish with them. I think I'm going to pick up some of the Diachi hooks next time I'm out. I
haven't tried them yet. Red? Hmm... guess I could try them too. Usually, I get the black nickle
hooks. |
Charles
Oct 17
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| Think I'll pick some of these up next time I'm at Bass Pro Shops*. I wish I
would have saved that other hook just to show them... but I doubt the girls
at the Customer Service desk would have a clue anyway. *Unless you want to send me some free ones! LOL |
Charles
Oct 17
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| >fine, but the point is a little too much inline with the eye giving me the |
Dan
Oct 17
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| Truthfully Charles, the last extras I had went to Warren a couple weeks ago.
I would do it in a second if I had some extra. I actually have to get a
bunch of them over the winter to restock before the season starts again. Chris |
Chris
Oct 18
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| Dan, Remember during the NWC, I pulled 2 Gammies open on Day 2? Gammies are very
sharp, and the thinner wire seems to help with quick penetration, but the
thinner wire I believe is also what kills those hooks, especially using
power-pro (or any super braid for that matter).
Daiichi are thicker than Gammies, and are as sharp if not sharper. The hook
point penetrates cleanly and doesn't cut , which could lead to the hook
backing itself out as it rotates in the fishes mouth. Cutting edge hooks
dull to quickly, and bend to easy at the point. Oxidation doesn't seem to
really be a factor (as I say this I opened my steelhead jig box to find 2
hair jigs made with daiichi hooks with rust on them......), but those are
the only 2 I have had rot on me. I have used everything from a #8 Daiichi
jig hook, and a #8 Salmon egg hook for steelhead and wouldn't trade them for
anything. Again my friends and I have experimented over the last 5 years
with every hook we could get our hands on and every single one of us goes
for the Daiichi. I pour all the jigs for our group (6 of us) for steelhead
and bass and if you asked each of them they would prefer Daiichi with money
on the line. Dan, 100's of Steelhead, 100's of Bass, 100's of King and Coho Salmon, I
have seen hooks straightened, bent points, oxidation, and fish just pull out
for no reason at all. I don't take any chances any more, trophies are so
few and far between and from a tournament aspect, I can't afford to lose any
fish at all! Just my $1.02 Chris
"Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard now" |
Chris
Oct 18
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| I was just kidding Chris... but I appreciate it! |
Charles
Oct 17
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| Gamagatzu |
Kevin
Oct 17
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| I am strictly a recreational angler, but I use Rapala/VMC #7316. Just like a
Gammy EWG, but with a locking bend. They're a tad less sharp out of the box,
but sharp enough, however, just one or two strokes with a file will make a
difference if you want. But then, I don't meet up with the big slobs that
you Tennesseans do. For me, those hooks are an excellent blend of quality and price. |
Marty
Oct 18
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| Charles, I like the Gamakatsu and Eagle Claw Laser Sharp hooks. The Eagle Claws
appear to be a bit more stout and don't bend as easily, but I like the way
the Gammi's penetrate and especially the way a Fluke type bait works with
the weight of this hook. I do have to back off a bit on the pressure I apply to a fish when using the
Gammi's as the lighter wire can straighten with 50 pound PowerPro and a
flippin stick, but even then, it doesn't seem to be much of a problem. Afterall, I did manage to get a seven foot alligator to the boat three times
on a Fluke and a 5/0 Gammi hook. |
Steve
Oct 18
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| Daiichi make s alot of different hooks. One of them is sure to do the trick
for you.
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Bob
Oct 18
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| I looked at the VMC's and I like them... only thing is I can't find them
locally. |
Charles
Oct 18
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| > |
Dan
Oct 18
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| None of this is a problem with mono... LOL. |
Charles
Oct 18
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| I bought all mine locally, but both places stopped carrying them after they
ran out. Last I looked, I think staminainc.com carried them. |
Marty
Oct 19
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| I bought a couple of packs of the Lazer Sharp EWGs. I thought they were very
good for a cheap hook (25 for about $3.50 at Wal-Mart). The only thing I
didn't care for is that the point seems to point outward just about a gnat's
eyelash and it doesn't Texpose quite as flat as some other brands. |
Marty
Oct 19
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| Those were the first hooks I started using for plastics, and come to think
of it... I liked them. You could get them in a box of 50 for not much cash,
which was good for the rate that I was hanging them up in the rocks. As far as I can remember too, I'd get a hook hookset with them. (Even on the
rocks, LOL) I think I quit using them because of the rocks, and the way the
other brand would lay on the bait so perfectly. I'll add these to my
shopping list along with the Daiichi's. |
Charles
Oct 19
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| It is exstreamly rare that a "hook" hangs in rocks, they hang in brush,
stumps, logs, and weeds,, something they actually penetrate. It's not
impossible to hang them in rocks, but it is rare. There may be brush or
other things in the rocks that is hanging your hooks, making you think
they are snagging in the rocks Weights hang in rocks, at least most of them do :-) |
Rodney
Oct 19
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| <SNIP> Rodney said it, so it must be true. All the times i have lost a hook
in the rocks (ie: Round Valley) must have been my imagination. My
bad...Sure you can see down 30+ feet and see exactly what you are hung
on, but my eyes musta been playin' trix on me. I've lost all kids of
stuff to whatever it is that 'looks' like rocks over there. Maybe I'll
get a sample and have Rod ID whatever this bottom cover is for me.
</sarcasm> Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution. |
Thundercat
Oct 19
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| I said it was "rare" to actually get a hook snagged in rocks,, a hook,,
not the weight,, I'm sure you were fishing with a bare hook, or just a
soft plastic on it in, 30 feet of water, (yeah right) perhaps you were
using 4# test,, then you might break off before getting a "hook" loose
from rocks. Hooks do not bite into rocks, most are small enough if the
line can get through the cracks, then the hook can, now a bead, or a
swivel, they can easily get stuck in rocks, but mostly you weight hangs
up in rocks, well at least they did, we have pro's fishing rocky lakes
and pre fish and fish up to 3 tournaments on the same weight,, they look
like hell after three weeks of the rocks, but they are still snagless.
These pro's are not snagging their hooks either. If you don't believe me, ask Bassdozer, some of you know him I think.
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Rodney
Oct 19
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| Not! As far as I know, Rodney hasn't said a thing in a long while! He and Albert
was battleing it out in my kill-file the last I heard. But if he said that
its' rare that a hook can get hung on a rock, then he just aint fishing.
Well, fishing those little Bill Dance ponds is "technically" considered
fishing. |
Charles
Oct 19
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| Hey! They can't be in your killfile - they're in MY killfile! Life's been
great since they left. They're probably out fishin for catfish & pike in
Alice's canoe. Warren ;-) |
go-bassn
Oct 19
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| Charles, I gotta agree with Chris - hesent me a few red Daichii's & I won a
tourney with em last weekend. They are super sharp. Fished the flippin
tube & the Ozmo on em & was pretty impressed. Warren |
go-bassn
Oct 19
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