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Stand Out Hooks In This Month's Issue

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Rodney
Dec 22
2004
Whoopie!

Now I can add your new kill-file-preventing-name back to the kill-file!

Charles
Dec 23
I saw that in the innovative new products list. Since I have actually used it I can agree that it works well, but since the only other hook I have used for drop shotting works very well also I can't give it the glowing praise that I might. I have never used a regular Z-bend or bait holder hook for drop shotting so I can't compare on that basis.

Now you need to invent a hook for those people who can't legally tie a hook directly to the main line with a trailing weight because it is classed as a snagging rig in their state or region.

Bob
Dec 23
Dang right Whoopee, that will make me some mega bucks, plus fishermen will get a great product, it has 2.5 million readers > >Now I can add your new kill-file-preventing-name back to the kill-file!

I guess you will stop reading Bassmasters now as well,, you might as well stop all your magazine subscriptions, as I have stories coming out in all of them this year,, you had better stop watching fishing shows as well, as these start next mouth show casing my inventions.

I'm not sure about you local news paper, but chances are high you will see them there to

I'll change my address back, so it will stay kill filed,, I just wanted you to know what else you need to do to keep from hearing about me, or my inventions, it won't be long that you will have to choose your fishing partners with care, or you will see them using my stuff.

Charles, you and Warren can run, but you can't hide, you might as well accept the fact,, I got some great new products the world will be using,, even if you won't,, your loss, not the Worlds

Rodney
Dec 23
Nice hook Rodney, keep up the good work.. uscgret
Dec 23
Guess what else made it into Bassmaster Magazine?

C'mon, think about it... Look on page 62. I see Secret Weapon Lures made it there too, but you didn't see all of us jumping on here to boast. All this says is that you, or someone in your place, attended this years ICAST. Steve Price came over to our booth too.

Did you get any response from anyone else? We did... but we aren't boasting about it neither.

I can assure you that I'm not hiding from anyone or anything Rodney.

Charles
Dec 23
No, but there was a whole thread on here started by Bob about the new Secret Weapon bait coming out. Don't see much difference in the threads myself. Ronnie fishing.guide@about.com http://fishing.about.com rgarri7470
Dec 23
Actually, it was Bob LaLonde that started the whole thing about the new Secret Weapon lure. Of the 19 posts in the thread, a mere two of them are replies by actual members of the Secret Weapon "corporate" staff.

Now, had someone come on and said that they'd seen a new standout hook that was really great looking, I wouldn't have any problem with Rodney replying to the posts. BUT, this just isn't the case......

Steve
Dec 23
No one SLAMMED the Secret Weapon on this group,, they didn't call it Rodney
Dec 23
Like the rest of Rodney's line of products, it's just a hook.

Rich P

Rich
Dec 23
<snip>

Hey! How did you get out of there? Back you go... PLONK

Harry J aka Thundercat Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team http://www.brooklynbillstackleshop.com Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

Thundercat
Dec 23
It's just another hook and spinnerbait, not worth all the hassle.. uscgret
Dec 23
As Steve said..Bob L started the Secret Weapon thread,,,not someone from SW...There is a huge difference..but if you want the 6 bucks your thread will generate, send me a paypal account I'll send it over...no need to send the hooks alwaysfishking
Dec 23
Sorry - I meant LaLonde and should have been more specific. Bob LaLonde - the same one selling Secret Weapon Spinnerbaits on his site:

'Featured Monthly FREE LURES Contest For December 2004 Courtesy of Secret Weapon Lures Write up your favorite tip trick or technique for fishing spinnerbaits and win free lures from Secret Weapon Lures. All participants also have the opportunity to buy one brand new design Secret Weapon Lures at the prostaff discount price for a limited time in January. " Rodney can be a real asshole and has proven it many times, but I think everyone should be treated fairly. Ronnie fishing.guide@about.com http://fishing.about.com

rgarri7470
Dec 24
Actually other than fishing with Joe once I have no real affiliation with SWL. The contest from my view point is to promote my website. Of course if it benefits Joe and Bob and the rest of the SWL crew and we mutually benefit that doesn't bother me in the least. I have two other manufacturers that have inquired about doing some kind of contest on the forums. I don't directly sell SWL lures, and if somebody asks I either direct them locally to Sportsman's Hide-A-Way or on-line to SWL's website.

On the other hand, I do agree that Rodney kinda gets the bums rush. He reminds of a lot of other tinkers I know. Has ideas and works on them, but isn't always the best person to promote themselves.

I also recall somebody else in the past commenting on nobody complaining about promotional posts by accepted regulars, but raising a stinka bout others. That was when I first started reading this newsgroup a couple years ago. I stayed out of htat one because I didn't know the score then.

Bob
Dec 23
That's right, he should treat me fairly. When the troll changed his addy to get out of killfiles before, he swore it was a mistake. He's done it twice since. He doesn't do this to contribute to the group, he is doing it just to irritate, the definition of troll. If people don't like what Bob or anyone else posts, they can decide for themselves whether an occasional "commercial" would make them want to miss out on other good informative posts. But if you don't like what rodney posts, you have to leave the group or keep adding and adding to your killfile. Henry
Dec 23
As Steve said..Bob L started the Secret Weapon thread,,,not someone from SW...There is a huge difference..but if you want the 6 bucks your thread will generate, send me a paypal account I'll send it over...no need to send the hooks

Good one! ;-) Joe Z.

Joe
Dec 23
>SW...There is a huge difference..but if you want the 6 bucks your thread >will generate, send me a paypal account I'll send it over...no need to send >the hooks >

Like I've said many times,, a person would be a fool to try to sell stuff over a news group,, what 50 members here ?,, 2 1/2 million readers of Bassmasters. Ya'll just knew about the hook long before they did (gee you got the news before anyone else, thus a "news" group)

I did not post this to try and sell anyone anything,, I don't sell those hooks anyway, I just invented them. The post was made to put some so called experts on this list, in their place of being arrogant AH's These guys are the reasons no pro's, and no biggies in the industry participate in this news group

Rodney
Dec 23
Hey, I could always use an extra six bucks send it to me. LOL. And, don't worry. If you don't want me to I won't send you anything I won't. Bob
Dec 23
While I find it kinda pushy for someone who never posts about anything else to post a commercial here, I expect it occasionally, and don't really object to it. The only thing I ever objected to about Rodney's posts was his AH attitude. He doesn't post here to try to sell stuff, he is just trying to get everybody's goat. Henry
Dec 23
I have no problem with your post although, as you say, you do benefit from the contest as does Secret Weapon. I have never complained about commercial posts here - as long as they are about fishing stuff I dont mind it.

I have been running a trivia contest on my site for several years and get a lot of free stuff to give away. Don't think I have ever mentioned it or the stuff sent to me for free until now, but my memory ain't that good.

I think it is ridiculous to jump on commercial post here when some may help you out. If you don't like the post, go on to the next one, don't try to stir up the stink. I sometimes get caught up in some of the silly post here but do my best to ignore them. Ronnie fishing.guide@about.com http://fishing.about.com

rgarri7470
Dec 24
Ok... but by NO means was I making any statement for SW. My opinions are mine alone and are totally separate from anyone else.

But, look at the way RL comes in here. He knows that we have him kill-filed so he changes his address in order to pass through our filters. We are doing what we can to avoid him...

Secondly, he only comes in here to boast or brag about his accomplishments. Never once do I recall an actual thread of his that has not lead to a discussion of how he has revolutionized fishing and that his way is the only way. Everyone else is stupid for not following his lead. That's what ticks me off... I know I should learn to ignore it. I have in the past, and even kill-filed him to maintain myself.

I'm sure that everyone here, AL included, has made some great accomplishments too, but choose to keep them to themselves.

Merry Christmas to everyone, even RL. Let's try to end this thing here and find some other way to deal with this Cabin Fever. Did you get any of the ice and snow down there Ronnie? It's cold here... and isn't expected to improve anytime soon.

Charles
Dec 24
Amen Ronnie!!!!!!

Chris S

Chris
Dec 24
Hey do you ready give a $hit ? Deal with it and move on. Heck alot of people have boast or brag about his accomplishments one way or another just WAYYYYY too many egos here :( Anyway have a Merry Christmas and Best wishes for the New Year

Chris S

Chris
Dec 24
As long as he stays in the K-File.... Charles
Dec 24
No ice and snow, just cold. I have my first club tournament two weeks from Sunday = gonna get out next week and check out the lake..

My smaller pond froze over this past week but was clear today. The bream hit the floating fish food I threw out pretty good, so some fish are still active! Ronnie fishing.guide@about.com http://fishing.about.com

rgarri7470
Dec 25
Why are you so obsessed then with letting AH's know about your hooks all the time, if your products can outfish every angler you go out with.... then show up at the MTC next year and put us all to shame, but until then leave the AH's alone. We don't like to be bothered alwaysfishking
Dec 25
   

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