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My skirt fell down

I hate it when my skirt falls down. I have come to the conclusion that bait sents weaken the rubber band on my jigs and spinner baits. The problem I have is trying to put another skirt on. I can never seem to get the rubber band back on the jig head. When I do its taken at least 10 minutes than the skirt is lop sided. Is there aan easy way to do this or a tool that may help?

Wes White http://shbc.thebassclub.com/

Jan 1
2005
Try a full lenght sundress. doS
Jan 1
Just let the paint or lure dry, position the skirt to where you like/want it to be, then put couple of drops of crazy glue where the band is and viola! Wait a half hour and she's done. Fish on Dude. ;-) -- Steve Steve
Jan 1
One shortcut most jig and SB makers take is to use natural rubber skirt bands on baits with silicone, lumaflex, etc skirts...thus guaranteeing that the higher priced bait will fall apart right on schedule:( /end new years rant/ Eric
Jan 1
Use a small plastic wire tie to keep the skirt in place, works on jigs too. uscgret
Jan 1
This would be the method of choice for those who have problems with skirt collars. Using wire without plastic would be even better. Bob
Jan 1
>collars. Using wire without plastic would be even better.

Why would you think that wire would be better? Less bouyancy? Wrap tighter? danl4x@charter.net Remove the x for e-mail reply www.outdoorfrontiers.com www.SecretWeaponLures.com

Dan
Jan 1
Bassdude may be right. Oil-based chemicals and silicone oils can remove the protective waxes from latex bands, which increases the rate of degradation. (That's why tire dressings, while making tires look newer, actually do more harm than good in terms of useful tire life.) Heat may be a factor, too. I've heard reports that in warmer states like Arizona, latex bands on new lures still in their packages have become brittle and break on the store pegs! Possibly they had been on display for an extended period of time.

I don't know of any US manufacturers who skimp on the quality of the latex used in skirt bands. SWL uses first-quality surgical-grade latex and I assume the others do as well. The advantages of latex are that it stays pliable in cold weather and isn't prone to splitting. The downside is that they become brittle after prolonged heat, ozone, and UV exposure. A UV stabilizer, as is used in rubber automobile tires., might convert UV energy into heat and prolong band life, but the trade-off is that all the bands would have to be black, like tires.

There may be some sort of wax that could be spread onto the band to protect against ozone damage, but no one is doing that, to my knowledge. To prevent ozone damage in latex tires, waxes are incorporated in the rubber composition. As the tires flex during use, the wax migrates to the surface, where it produces a protective barrier. (Ever notice that spare tires and tires on a vehicle or trailer that hasn't been used for a while seem to age and crack faster than ones in constant use? This is why.)

We've looked at silicone bands as an alternative, and although they would not become dry and brittle, with the least little nick they split open.

Bob Rickard's suggestion of a wire wrap is a good one. We've considered that and may try it at some point. To do so makes it difficult to swap out skirts, which some anglers do on a regular basis. Myself, I like to sometimes remove a skirt and put on a different color, or slip a tube jig over the spinnerbait head to create a different look and feel.... producing what looks like a giant beetle spin. (I unclip the blades, insert the loop end of the wire frame into the open end of the tube and out the top, and then thread the tube down the wire and over the head, lubricated with a little fish attractant to make it slip on easier.)

I seem to recall one of our prostaffers, Dave Willhide in Yuma, telling me that on new spinnerbaits, he wraps nylon thread several times around the skirt and ties it off just above the latex band. That way, when the rubber band invariably drops off, the skirt remains in place. If you're the kind who likes to modify baits, you might also add two or three strands of red silicone to your skirt at the same time to achieve the "bleeding minnow" effect.

Joe Haubenreich www.secretweaponlures.com First real spinnerbait change in 50 years! _______________________

"Eric Ryder" <e_OUT_lryder@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:i-adnQKX2rflSEvcRVn-hg@adelphia.com...

One shortcut most jig and SB makers take is to use natural rubber skirt bands on baits with silicone, lumaflex, etc skirts...thus guaranteeing that the higher priced bait will fall apart right on schedule:( /end new years rant/

Joe
Jan 1
Try some stainless steel tie wire and wrap it in place instead. Bob
Jan 1
Both, plus scents & other chemicals won't turn the plastic into sticky, messy goo. Bob
Jan 2
A drop of "super" glue works well too! PlaneMan
Jan 1
...do you have a fly tying vise?....try some red thread. offered Huck Huck
Jan 2
This is a good point. The rubber causes the latex silicone band to become brittle (even when not used). I have tried most methods of keeping my favorite spinnerbait skirts intact, including: stainless steel safety wire, wire ties, braided line, etc. Some problems that I've encountered with these types of fastening are: they are not easily interchangable, can slip off pretty easily on baits with marginal keeper barbs and are a pain to attach (except the wire tie). Late last year I began experimenting with a new attachment method that involved stealing an idea from the Senko attachment methods. Being the "engineering type", I pulled out my Parker O-ring catalog and looked for an elastomer that was compatible with petroleum based products and what I found was, a very common o-ring made from a material called Nitrile (aka Buna-N). The next step was to pull out my McMaster Carr catalog (www.mcmastercarr.com)to see what they have. They carry all sizes of Nitrile o-rings and you can size your spinnerbait to get them to fit(if your spinnerbait collar measures 1/8", I'd order the 3/32" i.d. o-ring to ensure a snug fit). They are inexpensive ($2.00/100) but the shipping is fairly expensive, but, while you're at it order the proper size for your Senko's too. Your local auto store may be able to supply them also.

The hard part of this modification is, installing them on the old skirts. What I did was, tape the end of the skirt with masking tape to make a point (bundle the strands together) and then thread the taped end through the o-ring. Once the o-ring is on the skirt, take your scissors and cut the latex band off.

I used this for about 3 months last year without a failure (YMMV). Jack ~~ Jack Dalzell www.jdbass.com ~~

jack
Jan 3
Save the shipping. Go to your local bearing supplier. They also carry O-rings. I have seen pliers (somewhere) that are for spreading o-rings. Bill Calif
Jan 3
I've got an Elastrator that I kept from my days on the farm... never tried them on spinnerbaits or with O-rings, but I'd say they'd work. At least the spinnerbait isn't bawling and struggling to get away while you're trying to apply the elastic ring.

For an illustration, go to http://www.geocities.com/abczrural/barn/castration_pliers.html.

Joe _________________ "Calif Bill" <bmckee.nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:q0iCd.6073$Cc.2488@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... Save the shipping. Go to your local bearing supplier. They also carry O-rings. I have seen pliers (somewhere) that are for spreading o-rings. Bill

Joe
Jan 3
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:12:11 -0600, "Joe Haubenreich" <rofbmail (at) Dan
Jan 3
Man, that brings back days working on the farm as well. That was one job I'd rather forget about! Steve
Jan 3
   

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