Kinami Palm Tree Hook Problem
Ok, I have tried to maximize the hook ups with this bait as best I can. I
use an over sized 5/0 Extra wide gap hook. It still blocks to much of the
point section of the hook way to much. I lost a nice LM yesterday because
of this. It only had about a 3/32nds of the hook point exposed when I got
the bait back in the boat. The barb was not exposed at all. It wasn't a
huge bass, but it would have made siz or seven places difference in our
finish.I have considered switching to a tube, and that would probably be ok for
weighted applications like flipping trash, but it still won't solve
weightless problems since the tube doesn't have the meat to flip weightless.
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Bob
Jan 10
2005
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| What type of rod and line are you using when throwing this lure? Big,
thick, heavy bodies require a rod with a TON of backbone and a line with
little stretch. If you only got 3/32nds of the hookpoint exposed, you're
not moving that hook hard enough in my estimation. Beef up the rod, beef up
the line and I don't think you'll have that problem. |
Steve
Jan 10
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| Also look into Zoom Horney Toad for fishing the slop, there's some of us in
here that think they're awesome. |
Jerry
Jan 10
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| I'm thinking the same as Steve, You should be able to pull a sharp hook
through any Kinami bait with the right rod/line/hookset. If you're flippin
you needn't be line shy, I use 25# Big Game even in clear water. A heavy
flippin stick & a manly hooset should get the job done. You should probably
start texposing your hook while rigging too - I never bury my hookpoints in
a plastic bait anymore... Warren |
go-bassn
Jan 10
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| Let me add on. I was throwing this on a St Croix flipping stick. I set the
hook so hard it pulled the fish completely out of the water. |
Bob
Jan 10
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| Let me add on. I was throwing this on a St Croix flipping stick. I set the
hook so hard it pulled the fish completely out of the water. With 50#
Power Pro. |
Bob
Jan 10
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| If you were using a St. Croix flippin stick, with 50 lb. PowerPro, jerking
the fish completely out of the water, I don't know what to say! Bad JuJu maybe? P.O. any of the fishing gods lately? |
Steve
Jan 10
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| If you jerked the fish from the water, it was a matter of resistance on
the other end not being enough. Get bites from bigger fsih and the
problem will go away. |
RichZ
Jan 10
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| That's just too funny. Actually when flipping I have jerked 3+ fish right
out of the water on a shallow bite. This one was probably only about 2
though. Still funny as heck. |
Bob
Jan 10
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| Yes, but I'll bet there was enough resistance at the other end to
penetrate with the hook before lifting the bass. |
RichZ
Jan 10
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| 50# line can rip the face off a 2# bass lol... Your problem is the line, try mono between 20-30# Bob.
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go-bassn
Jan 10
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| He said that he only had 3/32nd hook point exposed. I don't think the
problem is in the line. A hookset that can rip a 2 pound fish out of the
water should also shred the soft plastic. I'd like to see how he's rigging
the lure in the first place. |
Steve
Jan 10
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| Sounds like what was happening to me with the cyberflex plastics. I
decided not to use them anymore unless rigged fully exposed. Those baits
are tough! |
Henry
Jan 10
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| Boy Howdy!!!! If you want to pull the hogs out of the thick stuff then
you HAVE to try the Toads baby! Son!!!!!!!! Heavy |
Heavy
Jan 11
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| Amen ! |
Jerry
Jan 11
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| Jerry,what size hook are you using on those Frogs? |
BassMr
Jan 11
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| See my comment on texposing the hook... |
go-bassn
Jan 11
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| I prefer 4/0 Texposer's or Gami's EWG. |
Jerry
Jan 11
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| 5/0 Matzuo Sickle hooks work well too!!!!!!!! Heavy |
Heavy
Jan 12
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| Bottom line is that alwaysfishing is the one that got us started with these
things, so he's the one for the best answers. Come to think of it, he's been
pretty quiet in here lately. |
Jerry
Jan 12
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| Thanks for the info guys.I just got some bags of Toads and can't wait for
the grass to grow here on Old Hickory.I just love fishing the slop. |
BassMr
Jan 12
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| Re: Kinami Palm Tree Hook Problem
Group: rec.outdoors.fishing.bass Date: Tue, Jan 11, 2005, 7:22am (CST-2)
From: heavy@macomb.com (Heavy)
Boy Howdy!!!! If you want to pull the hogs out of the thick stuff then
you HAVE to try the Toads baby! Son!!!!!!!!
Heavy
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Guess I am gonna have to break down and get the kid to teach me how to
use them damn things! I'm afraid I'm gonna be fighting a "withdrawl"
from the worms though....and might even have to get a bigger cigar box
to carry my gear in <grin>! JK
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Jerry Barton (NervisRek) wrote:
Also look into Zoom Horney Toad for fishing the slop, there's some of us
in here that think they're awesome.
"Bob La Londe" <usenet@diycomponents.com> wrote in message
news:34fk6oF41jb78U1@individual.net...
Ok, I have tried to maximize the hook ups with this bait as best I can.
I use an over sized 5/0 Extra wide gap hook. It still blocks to much of
the point section of the hook way to much. I lost a nice LM yesterday
because of this. It only had about a 3/32nds of the hook point exposed
when I got the bait back in the boat. The barb was not exposed at all.
It wasn't a huge bass, but it would have made siz or seven places
difference in our finish.
I have considered switching to a tube, and that would probably be ok for
weighted applications like flipping trash, but it still won't solve
weightless problems since the tube doesn't have the meat to flip
weightless. |
jbkbub
Jan 12
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| Texas rig them with a 4/0 and just throw them into the nastiest stuff. Bring
them across the water like a topwater lure and get set.
You can also use them like a Senko and let them slow drift down and then
jerk them. |
Jerry
Jan 12
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| If you've got slop you'll ike the toad - fish it like a topwater buzzbait.
Try pitchin Lunker City's Ozmo's in there too, it's awesome.
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go-bassn
Jan 13
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| Re: Kinami Palm Tree Hook Problem
Group: rec.outdoors.fishing.bass Date: Wed, Jan 12, 2005, 10:23pm
(CST+1) From: jbarton1@comcast.net (Jerry=A0Barton=A0(NervisRek)) Texas rig them with a 4/0 and just throw them into the nastiest stuff.
Bring them across the water like a topwater lure and get set. You can
also use them like a Senko and let them slow drift down and then jerk
them.
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Thanks Jerry, I appreciate the info! John =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D |
jbkbub
Jan 13
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