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Can't stop laughing.... well I'm trying to.

So yesterday I'm sitting in a law office waiting to pick up some papers to file in Fed court and I happen to have a copy of Cabela's Bass Fishing 2005 out and am lookin through it. And I run across the following ad for line (page 116): <g>

Cajun Line - "This revolutionary copolymer line's BLOODLIKE COLOR (snort red of course) blah blah blah.. DISAPPEARS in the first few feet of water". WHAT?disappears in the first few feet of water ? ? ? ? ?

Well I liked to peed my pants. Why the hell color it RED then? Certainly it's not more visible above water like some of the bright lime greens are. Red's not hi viz? So what are these boys up to I'm thinking.

So . . . when I got home I pulled out my BP 2005 and sure as donkey dung it's right there on Page 117! Same verbage. Is it possible some one is trying to sell us dumb fishermen a load of poop vis a vis this whole RED thang ? Well as a big Bill Dance fan I was finding that pretty hard to believe . . . but then . . .

After I pushed that horrifying thought out of my simple mind I went into the bedroom and was watching OLN. Here's Randy Dearman and a buddy of his fishing some lake and just a slayin em. Every fish they caught, on spinner baits, crank baits, buzz baits hit them because of "that red hook" attached to em. I waited patiently (hearing red hooks twenty times) for the credits to run. . . and yep there it was . . . "The BLEEDING HOOK" bait company (a sponsor) . . . . who knows if they'd a caught anything but a cold if it weren't for those RED hooks on those Strike King lures !

Thank Goodness for BLEEDING HOOKS BAIT COMPANY n Wall Street.

I wonder if anyone in .... like Finland . . . has done a study on this ? <g>

Joshuall
Feb 15
2005
That's funny, Joshuall. Red is all the rage this year. I have no doubt that red has some impact on fishing success. As Rickard pointed out, a fluttering red cloth strip turned around an otherwise fishless day for him, and a number of people not sponsored by the "red" gang have convinced themselves through firsthand experience that red rules.

When Lloyd Bridges battled the bad guys and saved the day underwater in Sea Hunt, did everything look like it was bathed in blue light? If so, that's because it was. (I wouldn't know.... we had an old black and white TV set back in those days.) If a red rattletrap had been pulled past Lloyd's head during filming of the show, on TV it would have looked a dull blue-gray.

The red and orange end of the spectrum has the longest wavelengths. The longer the wavelength of light, the shorter distance it penetrates through water. As it passes through water, it is attenuated; that is, its energy is absorbed by the water and converted to heat. As a lure goes deeper, no red light remains to reflect off "red" hooks, lines, and lures. So, what happens to the red stuff? It goes gray. Not invisible.... just gray.

Bass eyes can distinguish red light, where it exists, but since it exists only in shallow water (and above the surface), then red lures and hooks probably make more of a difference in shallow water.... not in low-light conditions, or in deep water, or where there's a lot of suspended particles (mud) in the water.

So.... what does this mean for anglers? For well-lit, clear, shallow-water conditions, red may make a difference. And if you have red line.... don't count on it "attracting fish like a blood line in the water" except near the surface.

Joe __________________________

"Joshuall" <Joshuall@comcast.net> wrote in message news:V-CdnUTlmbcW4Y_fRVn-iQ@comcast.com... Can't stop laughing.... well I'm trying to.

So yesterday I'm sitting in a law office waiting to pick up some papers to file in Fed court and I happen to have a copy of Cabela's Bass Fishing 2005 out and am lookin through it. And I run across the following ad for line (page 116): <g>

Cajun Line - "This revolutionary copolymer line's BLOODLIKE COLOR (snort red of course) blah blah blah.. DISAPPEARS in the first few feet of water". WHAT?disappears in the first few feet of water ? ? ? ? ?

Well I liked to peed my pants. Why the hell color it RED then? Certainly it's not more visible above water like some of the bright lime greens are. Red's not hi viz? So what are these boys up to I'm thinking.

So . . . when I got home I pulled out my BP 2005 and sure as donkey dung it's right there on Page 117! Same verbage. Is it possible some one is trying to sell us dumb fishermen a load of poop vis a vis this whole RED thang ? Well as a big Bill Dance fan I was finding that pretty hard to believe . . . but then . . .

After I pushed that horrifying thought out of my simple mind I went into the bedroom and was watching OLN. Here's Randy Dearman and a buddy of his fishing some lake and just a slayin em. Every fish they caught, on spinner baits, crank baits, buzz baits hit them because of "that red hook" attached to em. I waited patiently (hearing red hooks twenty times) for the credits to run. . . and yep there it was . . . "The BLEEDING HOOK" bait company (a sponsor) . . . . who knows if they'd a caught anything but a cold if it weren't for those RED hooks on those Strike King lures !

Thank Goodness for BLEEDING HOOKS BAIT COMPANY n Wall Street.

I wonder if anyone in .... like Finland . . . has done a study on this ? <g>

Joe
Feb 15
So I don't really have to go nuts looking for them little red beads I use? I can just use any ole color?

Another thing... you think the faceted beads are better or inferior to the smooth round ones? I can always find the round ones....

Charles
Feb 15
Faceted beads are definitely superior to round beads!

On the other hand, round beads are definitely superior to faceted beads!

No, I'm not inhalaing my bubble pipe again; both statements are true, but only depending on what you are trying to achieve. Faceted beads gather light better and focus it tighter into stronger reflections, if that is what you want. Round beads diffuse the light more & thus emit weaker reflections, if that is what you want.

But most important, and never, ever forget this... huh?

Bob
Feb 16
Depends.... They're both good.... but each has its place, I think.

Sometimes I put a red, glass bead between my bullet weight and hook on a Texas rig. Especially at night or in muddy water, I add the bead so that every time I move the bait, it clicks. And almost all the time, I use a faceted bead. The flat surfaces glitter and scatter light as I pull the lure through the water. That little reflected sparkle may attract the attention of a big ol' bass, and in clear, shallow, well-lit water, the red might help, too.

However, for Carolina rigging, unless I have a hook somewhere near my swivel, I really don't want to attract too much attention to the weight, bead, and swivel. It's there to protect the knot, ostensibly, or maybe to add a clicking sound if I rig with brass 'n' glass. But I would rather the bass focus on the bait -- the thing that looks like a darter or something chasing the little critter scurrying across the bottom, stirring up a mud trail -- than on the sinker and bead. That's when I use round beads.

So.... ideally you might use your round bead for Carolina rigging, and a faceted bead for Texas rigging. But as Craig pointed out... do whatever gives you the most confidence. These are just my opinions.

Joe
Feb 15
My question is, why does red disappear when it's the color of the fishing line, but act as an attractor when it's a hook? Either the line is visible, or the hooks are invisible, right? All marketing hype.. One thing that I've noticed is, I'm not totally convinced that color fishing line scares the fish. I fish Lake Erie alot and the water clarity here is about 15ft. I always use fluorocarbon line, but one of my friends (who has won tens of thousands of dollars tournament fishing on Erie) always uses clear blue. In the sunshine, that line looks like a night light pole going into the water, but he ALWAYS catches big fish. Go figure.  Jack ~~ Jack Dalzell www.jdbass.com ~~ jack
Feb 16
And, when you and I fished together on Erie last spring, you were fishing your rig, I was fishing PowerPro without a leader, if I remember correctly, we tied for the day...... Steve
Feb 17
   

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