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Fireline & Spiderwire Problem

I must be doing something stupid, help. Whenever I spool up either of these lines on my baitcasters, and no matter what knot I tie or how tight I set my line when I spool up. after a while the whole wind of line spins on the spool. Yup the spool stays put and the line just spins around, is there a fix like roughing up the spool to get a better grip at the beginning. or am I just missing an obvious thing,
HankCoen
Jun 2
2005
Tape the first loop to the spool after tying it on, or put on mono backing first. Ronnie
Jun 1
Fill it half-way with mono, then tie the braid/fused line to that. Won't slip and it's more economical, to. RichZ
Jun 2
That little tape tab that usually comes on the spool is great for taping down the first wind. It's just the right size for my reels and I snitch rubber bands from SWMBO to hold any leftover line on the spool. Da
Jun 2
I like using the Mono also, I can spool up two reels with braid that way off of one spool of stren super braid alwaysfishking
Jun 2
Thanks Guys. I was starting to think I was crazy. I'll do both. try the tape and also the mono backing HankCoen
Jun 2
I'm a mono backer too.

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Thundercat
Jun 2
I also use mono backing before spooling with a braid. Chris
Jun 2
Backing with mono is the most economical way to go about it, as pointed out by the guys here. Next time you get into a box in of Fireline, yank out the directions. They (used to) outline how to spool up partially with mono first and then use a uni-to-uni knot to connect the lines, and then finish by topping off with the Fireline. If you go this route, make sure to try and match the mono line diameter to the line diameter of the Fireline/braid, as in my experience it works better when they're similar diameters.

Now, that said, I got to talk to Mike Iaconelli at a Dick's Sporting Goods a few months prior to his big Classic win a couple of years ago (they're a sponsor of his, apparently he used to work at one). Anyway, he told me that I could *also* just spool on the mono (prespooling with mono is a must either way you go, he said) and then just tie it off to itself, and then tie on the braid like you normally would and it would "cut" down into the mono and hold just fine. That is *if* I didn't feel like trying to do the uni-to-uni knot thing...he was quite the seminar teacher to a handful of us NC rednecks that day. He said if he was spooling at home, he tied it to the mono, but if he was having to respool on the road or lake, he just tied off the mono and then tied on the superline and let it cut down into the mono, which is quicker and works about as well in his opinion.

SimRacer
Jun 2
Do you use an Albright knot to attach "backing" to line? How does it work with the braided stuff?

Dan

Daniel-San
Jun 2
I actually use the blood knot. Chris
Jun 2
I'm a taper. I like to use a little bit of sports tape and go once plus around. It generally takes up less spool than mono. I'm generally not interested in saving money by using less braided line, I may get near spooled by a big striper and I don't want to get down to the mono in that situation. That said, I generally only use the Power Pro for inshore striper fishing. I like to have as much braid on there as I can fit (of course leaving the obligatory 1/8 to 1/4 inch lip on the spool).

Rich P

Rich
Jun 2
I agree with you Rich. To me, it's a false economy to use backing. Afterall, what connects you to the fish? The line! So why skimp on the only connection you have to the fish? People spend $15-$30,000 for a boat, a couple hundred for a rod, half that or more for a reel, $17 for a simgle Lucky Craft lure, yet balk at spending $10-$13 for a spool of line?

I'd rather fish knowing I have the security of a full, uninterrupted spool of line. A friend of mine use to do that, and had a big fish get him into the backing. Wanna take a guess at what broke?

If you're really concerned about economy, when the "front half" of the spool is looking pretty frazzled, simply run the line onto another reel, reversing it and using the unused portion of the line that's on the spool.

Steve
Jun 2
Heck Steve, I haven't met a freshwater bass yet that would take 60 yds of braid on me, but I do understand where your coming from..

Now pay attention Charles those catfish can spool ya!!!

alwaysfishking
Jun 2
I haven't been taken down to the knot by anything except a false albacore in SW. I do the same thing with mono and fluoro. The backing on my reels gets put on the first time their spooled and never comes off. RichZ
Jun 3
Yeah those false albacore are speedy little demons aren't they Rich alwaysfishking
Jun 3
Fastest thing in fins. But the SW guy I was out with insisted I'd never be able to back reel fast enough, and he was wrong. I landed 4 of 5 hookups with my drag tight and the anti-reverse off, while he dropped 2 of four relying on his drag. RichZ
Jun 3
Not really, tie into a wahoo someday. Bonefish are amazingly fast too...

Warren

go-bassn
Jun 3
And carp. I've been taken into the backing only twice, once by a steelhead and once by a carp. Fly fishermen don't call carp freshwater bonefish for nothin', ya know. Ken
Jun 4
   

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