How fishes see the color?
I have the suspect that all these colors in the baits attract more the
fisherman that the fish :)
Is there a rigorous study about how different fishes see and react the
colors?
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Vittorix
Jul 26
2005
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| Check out "What fish see" & "Knowing Bass" , both get pretty in depth
into the vision of fish. "What fish see" is based more on Salmon and
Steelhead on the west coast , btu "Knowing Bass" is as the title
suggests, written from a Biologist at Pure FIshing (Berkley). I have read them both a couple times. Very in depth, and scientific. Chris |
Chris
Jul 26
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| so, tell us: what conclusion they arrive to?
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Vittorix
Jul 26
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| IN a nutshell, Bass are very sensitive to certain colors, and not as
sensitive to others. Some colors they conclude they can determine
different shades of the same color, while other colors blend in and are
either just light or dark contrasts. Chris |
Chris
Jul 26
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| good. so which are the colors they are more sensitive to?
isn't there a scale?
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Vittorix
Jul 26
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| From: "Vittorix" <skyvix@libero.it> ¦
¦ good. so which are the colors they are more sensitive to?
¦ isn't there a scale?
¦
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¦ ciao
¦ Vittorix
¦ Red ! The colour of blood is seen by most fish and can invoke a reaction. However, the tone
variation may make a difference. I find that Blue Fish and Striped Bass have good sight and that's why I don't use black or
steel coloured leaders. I find a camouflaged leader works much better. Besides the weight
issue, the transition between red, clear and green helps the leader material to not be see
by blending into the background.
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David
Jul 26
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| Vittorix, you asked for a rigorous study. Two were suggested to you; yet you
asked for the conclusions rather than go find the studies yourself. That
being the case, I won't refer you to other studies (there are a few more
that I've come across), but will just summarize. Yes... there are a few rigorous studies. Plenty of room for more, if you're
into that. Yes... colors make a difference to fish... and to your fishing success. Yes... colors have to first catch the fisherman before they will catch the
fish. So there are more color options, patterns, and fancy decal jobs than
are essential to catch fish. But make no mistake... most anglers choose
their equipment (boat, rods, clothing, lures, etc.) for both the esthetics
as well as the performance. Both contribute to their enjoyment of the sport. If you're interested. go to our archive site, http://rofb.net, and type
"color mean anything" in the Google search. Then read the first article... a
string started by Craig Baugher, with worthwhile contributions by a number
of regulars. |
Joe
Jul 27
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| Thanks Joe, I didn't want to say it, but I was thinking the same thing. Chris |
Chris
Jul 27
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| Does anyone besides me remeber a color-meter gadget that was sold about 20
years ago?
You rolled the cable down into the water and a gauge told you the best color
lure to use. |
Dr
Jul 27
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| Yup. The Color-C-Lector or something like that. They have a new digital
version available. |
Bob
Jul 27
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| not if it helps pepole in the end.
Richard G. |
Dr.D
Jul 27
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Do fish feel pain !!!
I often wondered this// thanks
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mick |
mick
Jul 27
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Hallo Do you know where the best BASS is found on the south coast please. Thanks |
mick
Jul 27
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| The south coast of what? |
Steve
Jul 27
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| Sure. And I also remember when Dick Sternberg of the old Hunting &
Fishing Library line up 7 of them next to each other and got 6 different
colors. |
RichZ
Jul 27
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| Ha! I knew that thing didn't work! |
Dr
Jul 28
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| Wow...a digital version of something that didn't work when it was analog.
Or maybe it works now? |
Dr
Jul 28
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| did you read studies about this or are your conclusions? |
Vittorix
Jul 28
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| I tried to find them but I couldn't! |
Vittorix
Jul 28
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| I can tell you best bass in the south coast of Italy :)
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Vittorix
Jul 28
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| Some of these answers should put the question to rest. The answer is YES
fish see color and respond to them. http://www.pressrepublican.com/outdoors/lib/05262002out1.htm http://www.seagrant.wisc.edu/greatlakesfish/lure.html On the other hand... http://www.nefsc.noaa.gov/faq/fishfaq1c.html |
Jeff
Jul 28
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| http://snipurl.com/fishingcolors that's incredible, fishermen affirm all and the opposite of all.
they don't agree, and colors seems to be entirely important and entirely
meaningless at the same time.
It's confusing!
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Vittorix
Jul 28
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| very, very interesting! thanks
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Vittorix
Jul 28
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| What!?!?! You mean you aren't going to run right out and buy one?
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Bob
Jul 28
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| Here is a freebie.
http://www.seagrant.wisc.edu/greatlakesfish/lure.html
First result on a Yahoo search. Nope I won't read it and summarize it for you. LOL. |
Bob
Jul 28
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| Blow La Blonde
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Vittorix
Jul 28
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| From: "Vittorix" <skyvix@libero.it>
I read it when I studied ichthyology. In my mentioning of the leader, the transition is in the colouration of the leader as a
function of legth. A one foot section of leader will not be monochrome but will transit,
with variation in tone, from clear red to clear blue to clear green. A classic camouflage
technique.
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David
Jul 28
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Not knowing the principal of how it determines which colors to use I'd have
to say the comparisons show a pretty bad discrepancy, but the idea may be
sound. Its pretty well known that some conditions seem to work better with
certain colors. Its also known that there are lots of exceptions. I know there are devices that can pretty accurately determine a color. Like
a spectrophotometer used in a paint store to color match from an existing
color sample. I suppose some variety of that principle might be applied in
the field to determine which colors are most visible and recognizable from a
known color sample. i.e. Red looks black. Nope. White looks gray.
Nope. Blue looks blue. Maybe. Violet looks vividly violet. Yep. Something along those lines. I do have a problem with the idea that it can be done cost effectively with
the relatively low price and low production numbers we see with this
product. The spectrophotometer we had when I worked in the paint store was
thousands of dollars and weighed a lot more than I would want to have to
lift in and out of the storage compartment on my boat. LOL. |
Bob
Jul 28
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| nice. I don't know every fish has the same sensibility to colors, it |
Vittorix
Jul 28
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| And you told me not to be insulting. ROFLMAO (even more) Oh, man it hurts to laugh this hard. |
Bob
Jul 28
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| you started it, and now for all the rest of your life until your death
you will know and you will repeat in your mind who you are: Blow La
Blonde.
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Vittorix
Jul 28
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| Oh, man you are too funny. I'm sure you mean to be hurtful and insulting,
but that's just funny. LOL. You can make insults and demand to be hand fed
knowledge, but you just don't get it. Oh, man my ribs hurt from laughing. Go read ROFF by the way. |
Bob
Jul 28
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| you are not funny instead, you are boring, Blow La Blonde.
that's the reason I won't reply you anymore, also to respect others
newsgroup's people
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Vittorix
Jul 28
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| Is that a promise? |
Bob
Jul 28
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| From: "Vittorix" <skyvix@libero.it> ¦
¦ I didn't have any idea, thanks.
¦ how far from the bait this transiction is put?
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¦ ciao
¦ Vittorix
¦ The leader goes between the main fishing line and the lure. The leader is always heavier
test than the line. For example I use 40lb. test leader on a pole with 17lb. test (Stren).
The length of the leader is a funtion of the pole length and the weight of the lure. When I
use a 2 ~ 2.25oz. spoon (Krocodile or Gator) on a 12' surf rod I make the leader approx. 30
~ 36 inches. I'll use a barrel swivel to tie between the leader and the main line (17lb.
Stren) and a snap on the leader to connect to the lure. The leader has to loop knots, one
on each end where one is slightly larger than the other. The smaller loop goes to the
barrel swivel and the larger loop goes to a snap. The main line (17lb. Stren) connects to
the barrel swivel via a palomar knot. The above can be scaled down for fresh water easily. For example, 6 inches to 12 inches of
12 ~ 15lb. leader material, smaller snap and barrel swivel on a pole using 4 ~ 6lb. test.
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David
Jul 28
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| interesting.
in Italy and in all surf casting fishing and in Long Casting tournaments
we use also a strong line (about 0.60/0.80mm diameter) and we call
"shock leader" to connect the main line (0.20/0.35mm diameter) to the
rig set with big leads (3/6oz), you can see a sample here
http://www.pescainmare.com/newfoto/paternoster.JPG but our shock leader is about 1,5 times the lenght of the road (usually
13') and the purpose is to receive the sudden and violent traction of a
ground or pendulum cast.
so, that I can't understand of your leader use is the purpose, being so
short.
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Vittorix
Jul 28
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