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Another Fast Cat Question
Any truth to the rumor that the Fast Cat handles middle size waves smoother
than most other boats but has problems in really big stuff if it slams down
because it will stop hard throwing the rider and passenger forward? |
Bob
Mar 1 2006
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| Amen on the SWs! Sorry my reply took so long, I hope it shows up as
I'm now posting through Google groups since getting Verizon dsl. I
can't wait to get in your Cat Steve, I'll be looking forward to it! Warren |
gobassn
Mar 4
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| Bob, This is how it was explained to me. In mid-size waves, because the hull
"packs" air under the hull in the tunnel, and because you're running level
with more wetted surface, it can float on a cushion of air and just skim the
tops of the waves, with the front of the sponsons breaking the wave. This
makes for a smooth, dry ride. This also works as long as the waves are no
more than 15 - 18 feet apart, height of the wave has no bearing at all.
With a conventional hull, you don't have that "floating" effect and you're
taking the brunt of the wave on the bottom of the hull. This makes for a
rougher ride with lots of splash. Depending on how well the hull design
throws the water to the side, you might or might not be dry when this
happens. If the distance between waves becomes more than that, then you risk
"stuffing" the wave, and yes, that will bring you to a SUDDEN stop! But, if
the waves are far enough apart, then you can just ride over them without
problem. But then again, stuffing a wave with any boat hull style will stop
you in your tracks, don't ask me how I know that! The "cat" hull with the wide beam carried all the way to the front of the
boat means that you will have a VERY stable boat and Fast Cat builds their
boats to racing standards, which means that the average angler can drive it
just as hard as they want to and never worry about breaking it. All I know is that I was extremely impressed with the thought that went into
the design of the hull, how much testing has gone into it, and how exacting
they are when building it. Trust me when I say, "This ain't your daddy's
fishin' boat!" |
Steve
Mar 1
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| Actually what was described to me was smacking down hard and the friction of
the tunnel's flat surface stopping the boat even when you don't stuff it
unlike a v-hull that will come down hard, but split the wave. It was
another boat builder who described it to me of course so... They agreed in middle weight chop though that nothing beat the ride of a
tunnel. I know my Baker Custom was great. |
Bob
Mar 1
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| Man, as deep as this tunnel is, you'd have to really slam it to stick it in
a wave that deep! I suppose in theory that could happen, but man, that
would be some extreme conditions. Since I made the committment to buy the Fast Cat, I've talked to some other
dealers and self-professed boat experts. I've heard all kinds of "horror"
stories about catamaran hulls and how a conventional hull is superior to the
cat style. But when I ask them how come catamarans are dominating offshore
powerboat racing, which is probably the ultimate rough water experience,
they have no answer. I guess all I can say to that is "wait and see"..... If you want the definitive answer, contact Errol Lanier at
laniermarine@bellsouth.net and ask him. He used to run (among others) Miss
Budweiser and the Benihana boat. Errol was the first to bring a catamaran
boat to offshore racing and he could answer your question a lot better than
I. |
Steve
Mar 1
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| Stevo/Bob- I checked out the FastCat at the Classic Outdoor show last weekend, it is
indeed a very interesting design. I personally saw three things about it that I questioned as being potential
problems. The first is storage. It appears that there's very little space outside of
the two catamaran hulls, each of which off a huge, cavernous storgage area.
These caverns are very deep ones, but certainly not wide nor do they offer
any kind of organized layering of equiptment. I can easily see things
burying up in layers in there, which could result in numerous problems. The second thing that struck me was the size of the forward casting deck,
which I saw as being very small. As a guide you probably have 2 or more
individuals up there (including yourself) often. If the deck extended back
to the consol that would be adequate, but it stopped well short of it. The third potential problem is the one Bob mentioned. Those catamaran hulls
are skinny, and in big water & under full load I can't see them keeping the
upper platform (which is flat underneath) from hitting water hard on the way
down especially at speed. Basically there's nothing I see that would
"split" the water in big seas like modern v-hull variations do. They way you describe the "smacking down" of the flat surface stopping the
top from submerging makes sense on a straight-down drop, but not at all at
significant speed. I realize that you generally fish small waters & aren't
likely to encounter waves larger than 2-3 feet, and if that's the case this
may not be a concern to you. I know also that this rig is derived from
racing boats, and that boat races aren't done in high seas, at least not
with 22 foot boats. Keep in mind that I've never ridden in or seen a FC in action, and that
these observances are merely my concerns after seeing one up close. I know you're a wise man Steve, but I'd take a traditional bassboat design
over one of these personally. JMHO of course. Warren |
go-bassn
Mar 1
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| ***Fast Cat and I are working on this. I'm going to see about working up an |
Steve
Mar 1
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